Nerf F-14 or bump their BR

My point is, is that they already take player opinion into the balancing of vehicles, but ultimately they have the final say.

They need to rely less on player stats, and more on objective facts for balance.

FFS… gajin put this idiotic plane at higher br. HOW TF HOWWWWW i can fight againts f14 in my mig21bis… Maps flats as table top im on 25m above ground and guess what… get hit from 120km… My radar cant even spot this most noobest plane ever and i go to garage cuz fucking multipathing got idiotic boost… ffs worst upadte ever ruined all game at 11.3

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anyone who thinks this was a good idea is a total moron… plus the Fakour is far better than the pheonix purely due to the range, and speed of the missile

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Well, because it is USA. look at all these crybabies in this topic. USA will always have superior jets. for example, if they are given a mig-29, then it should be at 11.3 because “oh there are just 2 R-27ER”. We have already seen this on F-104 F-8U F-5E F-14A F-14B and F-15.
R-77 is the second worst ARH missile now, only better than AIM-54. Based on these USA crybabies’ logic, it would be reasonable to move all Russian jets with R-77 0.3 downwards.

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If they are so useless, we should ask gaijin to simply remove AIM-54 and fk90. don’t you think it’s a good idea? after all, it’s useless anyway, right? only.to slow you down in a dogfight.

It works against player who use decent fighters as B-17(mostly F-4) or people who actually try BVR in high altitude.

Problem is there are tons of dumb players in Jet RB match who doesn’t even check RWR.

F-14 is too op at its current BR. It needs to be two BR ticks higer. With multipath nerfed, superflat maps und high rise trees you simply can’t fly low enough to survive these Phoenix mass barrages. Teams are fully stacked with F-14 and often dozens of incoming Phoenixes nuke most of the team in one go.

They doesn’t ignore Russia and other red team.
MiG-19PT/S was good and same tier with F-104A rn, MiG-21SMT/MF is still good, MiG-21bis was good when it comes. J-7E is OP as fuck rn.

MiG-23MLD/MLA was insane until F-14A comes in the game.
Also, R-27ER is still best SARH in the game.

This two contradict each other, a super flat map is easy to multipath on because it is flat

Also you have a radar altimeter now I really don’t want to hear complaints about multipathing. It is sososo much easier with radar altimeters, Gaijin only added them for the people complaining about multipathing.

Must be unlucky, but every time I try to multipath I get killed or heavily damaged from fox3’s.
If I fly at ±50m above ground the missile will still intercept me close enough for the fuse to act in my vicinity.
If I fly lower I often get damaged from the ground hit anyway.

How do you guys still multipath? I only rely on notching or avoiding WEZ altogether.

Yeah multipathing above 50 meters has been very unreliable for me, when I do multipath on like a stock grind or something I aim for 40 meters, the faster you’re going also helps you a ton

At 30-40m I still get splash damage regularly, and if it is a phoenix / fakour that will 99% crit me so I never relied on multipathing after the 60m ceiling change.

Only time it works well is above water, and even then I got killed once while flying like 15m above sea level

I’ve only ever had splash damage happen to me once, maybe because I don’t multipath a ton but that’s not an experience I’ve have a lot

I think the biggest trick to to not have one fired at you in the first place

You’re talking about fox3s too or fox1? Multipathing against fox1’s still work ok for me (except r-27er), only the top-tier missiles with IOG make me avoid multipathing altogether

Yeah only one phoenix has ever got me while I was multipathing with splash damage, that was because it was late game and I had just got done with a dogfight and was at like 400kph

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Yep, that is my same experience. Never been killed by one, but did loose the tip of a wing from splash damage in the Tornado F3. Though new FM should make that a non-existant event now.

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Just yesterday I got killed by an R-darter from like 60º to the side while flying in the 30-40m range at mach and some slight maneuvers without leaving the multipath ceiling, I was using the new radar altitude thingy to make sure of it. That was one of those times that I was like, screw it, lets see if multipath works for me and then all my control lines got blasted away from the explosion nearby, the missile exploded in the air close to me

If the missile comes down with a high enough angle, then it will hit you on the way to hitting an MP Target. So if the Gripen was way above you, then the R-Darter had a good chance of striking you.

MP I find it most effective when something is at the same alt as you when the missile is fired at you. Everything else, best to notch

Yes of course, but most missiles come from a high aspect

I don’t really have an explanation other than what was already said, it could just be you’re unlucky lol