need help how do i evade r24r when its going to me form the front like i play on my plane and fly low the i see a mig23ml come at me from the front and fire hes r24r and even if i chaff even if i go to the side doing over g i still cant avoid it. how do i avoid it in this Situation??
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but r24r is not fox 3 its radar guided
It’s the same thing; you just have to notch the aircraft radar, and it will be notched easily. Since it’s an early Fox 1, it’s going to be even easier to notch it or else just stay below 50 meter and multipath.
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the problem is they fire the r24r 2km from me i just dont have enough time to start notching
and also they firing the r24r at 50 meter and below
You don’t need to wait until they shoot to take defensive measures,
try to prevent them getting into position to take a shot rather then waiting until they do then trying to dodge it.
you will want to start in notching position, once you spot them coming for you. What plane are you using?
They will be cheaters, and you may report them unless they are fired from above you or you got hit by the heat-seeking version.
so you say at the momant i see them i need to notch
Well, yes, if you can’t turn fast enough at close range and they start tracking you. you shall start notching as soon as they are coming for you.
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ok ty :)
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It depends, you can try to put them defensive by shooting 1st, dive into a multipath to make the missile dive into the ground or use F-poles and cranking to make it hard for them to get shots. but ideally you want to be positioning yourself so you are not taking head ons with them to begin with
i cant shoot first cuz i play with the kfir canard he has only rear aspect missile
I don’t know much about that one, but my general tactic for that kind of plane would be to fly out to the side then try to dive in on the tail and surprise missile enemies that are not paying attention, if you see anything with radar or all aspect IR missiles trying to head on, start setting up to go defensive, go into a partial notch, get closer to the ground to make it east to dive into a multipath etc. beyond that its just practice, so don’t get too off put if you do get killed, a Mig 23 is almost a full up-tier for you and that always hard to deal with.
Oh, and be aware that the R-24/27s have IOG so once you notch/ chaff or kill the shooter you need to change direction or it will still hit, usually that means notch/chaff then climb or dive as that lets you hold the notch while dodging the IOG.
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As the others said, there’s planes you just can’t headon. This is true for you with the MiG-23s, gotta start by defending and only then you can try to take them down. It can be frustrating but the game is that way.
I had a similar experience in my Mirage 3 against MiG-21s, I only stopped dying in loops when I accepted that taking them headon was just not possible
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