NDI - Bluewater Techtree

NORWAY - DENMARK - ICELAND
BLUEWATER TECHTREE

Here i present to you an idea for a new techtree! this techtree will consist of Norwegian, Danish and icelandic vessels. Note that the rank and br placement is almost random because i have no idea what to compare the vessels with, so here i will need your help! so if you got an idea feel free to comment! And also, before you proceed, the vessels wich i have given the Battleship icon are of a ship type we call “coastal battleship” often known as coastal defence ship. just so you know that those arent the real type battleships

VESSELS COUNTED

TOTAL AMOUNT OF VESSELS: 54x
AMOUNT OF UNIQUE VESSELS: 47x
PERCENTAGE OF UNIQUE VESSELS: 87%
AMOUNT OF RESEARCHABLE VESSELS: 47x
AMOUNT OF PREMIUM VESSELS: 8x

RANK 1 23 - 21 - 2 - 23
RANK 2 15 - 13 - 2 - 14
RANK 3 10 - 9 - 1 - 8
RANK 4 6 - 4 - 2 - 2

RDN - Royal Danish Navy
HNoMS - His Norwegian Majesty’s Ship
BATTLESHIP ICON - Coastal Battleship
ICGV - Icelandic Coast Guard Vessel

VEHICLES DESCRIBED

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NORWAY

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DESTROYER DRAUG-CLASS “DRAUG” 1908

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT 1908
6x 76mm Fast firing automatic cannons
3x 45.7cm Whitehead Model VII overwater torpedocannons

i put this at tier 1 due to its armament, and the upgraded verison in tier 2

DESTROYER DRAUG-CLASS “DRAUG” 1940

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT 1940
5x 76mm Fast firing automatic cannons
1x 3" anti-aircraft cannon
2x .303 Lewis anti aircraft machineguns
3x 45.7cm Whitehead Model VII overwater torpedocannons

these got different specs, such as crew, speed, eigne and weight, placed them at their br because of this and their age

DESTROYER DRAUG-CLASS “TROLL”

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT
6x 76mm Fast firing automatic cannons
3x 45.7cm Whitehead Model VII overwater torpedocannons

these got different specs, such as crew, speed, eigne and weight, placed them at their br because of this and their age

DESTROYER DRAUG-CLASS “GARM”

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT
6x 76mm Fast firing automatic cannons
3x 45.7cm Whitehead Model VII overwater torpedocannons

these got different specs, such as crew, speed, eigne and weight, placed them at their br because of this and their age

HNoMS NORGE ARMORED SHIP

BUILDING SITE:Armstrong Elswick, Great Britain

Armament
2 x 209/44 Armstrong C guns
6 x 149/46 Armstrong FF guns
8 x 76/40 Armstrong N guns
2 x 76/28 M36 Bofors AA cannons
2 x 20 mm Oerlikon AA auto-cannons
2 x 12.7mm Colt heavy AA machine guns
4 x 7.92 mm Colt heavy machine guns
2 x 450 mm torpedo tubes (beam)

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

Harald Haarfagre

Shipyard: 1897 at Armstrong Withworth & Co Elswick, UK. (build no. 648)

ARMAMENT
Whitehead Torpedoes
2x 21 cm main guns
6x 12cm secondary guns
6x 7.6cm tertiary guns
6x one-pounders, for shooting at light targets

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

HNoMS Bjørgvin - Coastal battleship

BUILDING SITE: Armstrong, Elswick, Great Britain

ARMAMENT
2x 240mm cannons
4x 152mm cannons
4x 102mm cannons
2x 76mm cannons anti air
2x 45.7 cm Underwater Torpedotubes in broadside
antitorpedo-“bulges”

as an event vessel due to its history, and since it was taken by the british whe ww1 broke out

HNoMS Mansfield Destroyer

BUILDING SITE: Bath Iron Works, ME, USA

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons
4x 7.6mm machineguns
6x 53.3cm Torpedotubes
40x Depth charges/sinking mines

I think this will be a good vessel for tier 3. one of the reason is that it was part of the sinking of the Scharnorst

DESTROYER SLEIPNER-CLASS “BALDER”

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons L/40
1x 40mm cannon Bofors L/60
2x 12.7mm cannons
2x 53.3cm torpedotubes

should be a fitting br and toer due to armament and specs

HNoMS Ålesund

BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

Armament
1 - Double 12 cm L/44 Bofors facing forward
2 - Single 12 cm L/44 Bofors facing backwards
2 – Double 53,3 cm torpedo launchers
2 – Single mounted 40 mm Bofors L/60
2 - 12,7mm water-cooled colt machine guns
2 – Depth charge throwers
Drop points/equipment for depth charges

should be a fitting br and toer due to armament and specs, and as a event vehicle cause of its history
HNoMS Ålesund german mod
BUILDING SITE: Marinens Hovedverft, Horten

ARMAMENT
3 x 105mm cannons
2 x 37mm cannons
6 x20mm cannons (Could be 2 single and 1 quadruple mount)
4 x Double 53,3 torpedo launchers

should be a fitting br and due to armament and specs, and as a event vehicle cause of its history. This should proably be added to the german naval tree, but we got it back after the war

KNM TROMSØ DESTROYER Hunt-class II M/42

BUILDING SITE: Cammel Laird, Birkenhead, Great Britain

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm double cannons
1x 4 double 37mm cannon
2x 20mm Orelicon cannons
1x 7.6mm machinegun
50x Depth charges/sinking mines

this one are in folders at this br after i have tried to compare it to other vessels

KNM TROMSØ DESTROYER Hunt-class II M/53

BUILDING SITE: Cammel Laird, Birkenhead, Great Britain

ARMAMEN
4x 102mm cannons
2x 40mm cannons
2x squids AU-weapon

this one are in folders with the earlier original modification M/42. at this br after i have tried to compare it to other vessels

“STORD” DESTROYER SAVAGE-CLASS

BUILDING SITE: J.Samuel White & Co. Ltd. Cowes, Great Britain

ARMAMENT
4x 120mm cannons
2x 40mm Bofors cannons
4x 20mm Oerlicon cannons
8x 53.3cm torpedotubes
80x depth charges/sinking mines

seems like a fitting br and tier, considering its achivement in combat during ww2

KNM NARVIK DESTROYER Hunt-class III M/42

BUILDING SITE: Cammell Laird, Birkenhead, great Britain

ARMAMENT
4x 102mm cannons
1x 37mm Pom-Pom cannon
3x 20mm Oerlicon cannons
4x 12.7mm machineguns
2x 53.3 cm torpedotubes

This will be in a folder with he upgraded variant. should be a fitting br and rank

KNM NARVIK DESTROYER Hunt-class III M/53

BUILDING SITE: Cammell Laird, Birkenhead, great Britain

ARMAMENT
4x 102mm cannons
2x 40mm cannons
2x squids AU-weapon

in folder with the oiginal modification

this is really simlar to its sisterships, but it has differences, such as speed, eigne, weight and crew. that goes for all the sisterships. should be a fitting br and rank

HNoMS LINCOLN Destroyer Town class

BUILDING SITE: William Cramp & Sons Ship & Eigne, Building Co. PA, USA

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons
4x 7.6mm machineguns
6x 53.3cm Torpedotubes
40x Depth charges/sinking mines

could be a fitting br and tier, might be better at rank 3

KNM BERGEN DESTROYER Crescent-class M/45

BUILDING SITE: Scotts SB & Eng. Co. Ltd., Greenock, Great Britain

ARMAMENT
4x 4,5" Fast firing cannons
6x 40mm Bofors cannons
2x 20mm Oerlicon cannons
4x 21" torpedotubes
Sinking mines rack

this should fit good at its br, consiedering the armament

KNM BERGEN DESTROYER Crescent-class M/61

BUILDING SITE: Scotts SB & Eng. Co. Ltd., Greenock, Great Britain

ARMAMENT
4x 4,5" Fast firing cannons
6x 40mm Bofors cannons
2x 20mm Oerlicon cannon
4x 21" torpedotubes
Sinking mines rack
1x6 KONGSBERG TERNE III ANTI SUBMARINE ROCKETS - launch pad with 6 rockets

This should fit nice as a premium, with the extr anti submarine weapons. if we getsubmarines in the game it would be useful. and i also think this could be used aginst ships

HNoMS BATH Destroyer Town flush IV class

BUILDING SITE: Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Newport News, VA, USA

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons
4x 7.6mm machineguns
6x 53.3cm Torpedotubes
40x Depth charges/sinking mines

could fit nice here, i choose this placement due to its age. this have some sisterships, and could terefore be in a folder. the differences are eigne, speed, weight , power, crew etc

HNoMS NEWPORT Destroyer Town flush IV class

BUILDING SITE: Fore River Shipbuilding Co. Quincy, MA, USA

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons
4x 7.6mm machineguns
6x 53.3cm Torpedotubes
40x Depth charges/sinking mines

could fit nice here, i choose this placement due to its age. this have some sisterships, and could terefore be in a folder. the differences are eigne, speed, weight , power, crew etc

HNoMS St. ALBANS Destroyer Town flush IV class

BUILDING SITE: Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co., Newport News, VA, USA

ARMAMENT
3x 102mm cannons
4x 7.6mm machineguns
6x 53.3cm Torpedotubes
40x Depth charges/sinking mines

could fit nice here, i choose this placement due to its age. this have some sisterships, and could terefore be in a folder. the differences are eigne, speed, weight , power, crew etc

DENMARK

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Gejser Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm recoilless guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors
should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Gejser Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm anti-aircraft guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Valkyrien DK Mk.1

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 21 cm Cannons
6 pieces. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
8 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (in the bow)
1 piece. 38 cm Torpedo tube (aft)
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (midships) removed in 1913
should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Valkyrien DK Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
6 pieces. 75 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (in the bow)
1 piece. 38 cm Torpedo tube (aft)

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Hekla Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 57 mm guns
6 pieces. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Hekla Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 47 mm guns
6 pieces. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Hejmdal Mk.1

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm recoilless guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Hejmdal Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm anti-aircraft guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs

Odin

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
4 pcs. 25 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 87 mm Cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns

could be a nice addition at this rank

FYEN cruiser frigate
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
16 pcs. 15 cm guns
6 pieces. 37 mm Revolver guns
1 piece. 37 mm cartridge cannon
1 piece. 8 mm Mitrailleuse
2 pcs. 35.5 cm Torpedo launchers for
2 pcs. 40 cm Mirror projectors

this is a really powerful ship, with many powerful weapons, wich are able to challenge many bigger ships! its biggest weakness are torpedoes!

Lindormen

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 87 mm Cannons
4 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
1 piece. 11 mm Mitrailleuse

poweful enough to challenge other vessels at this rank

Gejser Mk.1

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm recoilless guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

Very powerful vessel, fits nicely here!

Gejser Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm anti-aircraft guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors
Very powerful vessel, fits nicely here as a premuim!

Tordenskjold Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
1 piece. 35 cm Cannon
4 pcs. 12 cm Cannons
1 piece. 3" Fork cannon
4 pcs. Revolver guns
1 piece. 38 cm Bow torpedo tubes
3 pieces. 35.5 cm Torpedo guns
2 pcs. 60 cm Mirror projectors
2 pcs. TORPEDO BOAT OF 2. (NO. 4 and 5)

powerful vessel, fits nicely here

Tordenskjold Mk.2
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
1 piece. 35 cm Cannon
4 pcs. 12 cm Cannons
2 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
6 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm Bow torpedo tube
3 pcs. 35.5 cm Torpedo guns
2 pcs. 60 cm Mirror projectors
2 pcs. TORPEDOBAAD AF 2ND (NO. 4 and 5)

powerful vessel, fits nicely here

Skjold
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
1 piece. 24 cm breech cannon
3 pieces. 12 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 47 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 8 mm Mitrailleuses (until about 1906)
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

could fit nicely at this rank

Valkyrien Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 21 cm Cannons
6 pieces. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
8 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (in the bow)
1 piece. 38 cm Torpedo tube (aft)
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (midships) removed in 1913
4 pcs. Lens projectors, later replaced by:
2 pcs. 45 cm Mirror projectors, and in 1913 replaced by:
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. TORPEDO BOAT OF 2. (NO. 10 and 11)

powerful vessel, fits nicely here

Valkyrien Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
6 pieces. 75 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 38 cm Torpedo tubes (2x1) (in the bow)
1 piece. 38 cm Torpedo tube (aft)
4 pcs. Lens projectors, later replaced by:
2 pcs. 45 cm Mirror projectors, and in 1913 replaced by:
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. TORPEDO BOAT OF 2. (NO. 10 and 11)
powerful vessel, might be a nice addition to this rank

Gorm

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 57 mm Cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns

powerful vessel, might be a nice addition to this rank

Hekla Mk.1

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 57 mm guns
6 pieces. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

fits here

Hekla Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 15 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 47 mm guns
6 pieces. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

fits here

Hjemdal Mk.1

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm recoilless guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

very powerful, fits here

Hjemdal Mk.2

Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm guns
2 pcs. 87 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm cartridge guns
2 pcs. 57 mm anti-aircraft guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 45 cm torpedo apparatus in the bow
1 piece. 38 cm torpedo apparatus aft
2 pcs. 38 cm torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

very powerful, fits here

Ingolf Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
3 pieces. 15 cm breech-loading guns

should fit nice here

Ingolf Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 12 cm Cannons
2 pcs. 57 mm Cartridge guns
2 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
1 piece. 37 mm Recoil cannon
2 pcs. 37 mm Cartridge guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 40 cm Mirror projector

should fit nice here

PEDER SKRAM
Royal Naval Dockyard, Copenhagen

ARMAMENT
2 x 24 cm Guns
4 x 15 cm Guns
10 x 75 mm Guns
2 x 37 mm Guns
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (bow)
2 x 45 cm Torpedo Tubes (amidships) (2x1)
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (aft)
2 x 90 cm Search Lights

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

PEDER SKRAM M/16
Royal Naval Dockyard, Copenhagen

ARMAMENT
2 x 24 cm Guns
4 x 15 cm Guns
8 x 75 mm Guns
2 x 37 mm Guns
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (bow)
2 x 45 cm Torpedo Tubes (amidships) (2x1)
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (aft)
2 x 90 cm Search Lights
2 x 75 mm Anti Aircraft Guns

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

PEDER SKRAM M/34
Royal Naval Dockyard, Copenhagen

ARMAMENT
2 x 24 cm Guns
4 x 15 cm Guns
8 x 75 mm Guns
2 x 37 mm Guns
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (bow)
2 x 45 cm Torpedo Tubes (amidships) (2x1)
1 x 45 cm Torpedo Tube (aft)
2 x 90 cm Search Lights
4 x 20 mm Machineguns (2x2)
4 x 8 mm Machineguns (2x2)

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

IVER HVITFELDT
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet Denmark

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 26 cm Cannons
4 pcs. 12 cm Cannons
2 pcs. 57 mm Cartridge guns
6 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
2 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
1 piece. 38 cm Bow torpedo tubes
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels

Herluf Trolle
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet Denmark
ARMAMENT
2 stk. 24 cm kanoner
4 stk. 15 cm kanoner
10 stk. 57 mm kanoner
8 stk. 37 mm kanoner
1 stk. Torpedoudskydningsapparat i stævnen
2 stk. Torpedoudskydningsapparater - midtskibs (2x1)
2 stk. 90 cm Projektører
2 stk. 75 cm Projektører

i am unsure about what br this fits on, so i put it in tier 2, i tried to compare it to Other vessels, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Herluf Trolle 1905
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet Denmark
ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
10 pcs. 57 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
6 pcs. 47 mm guns

This will be in a folder with he other variants of this vessel, cause it have been upgraded evenly, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Herluf Trolle 1910
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet Denmark

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
10 pcs. 57 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 57 mm guns

changed armament, dot a really big change so i put it as an event vessel, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Herluf Trolle 1917
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet Denmark

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 57 mm guns
6 pcs 75mm cannons

premium due to new and more powerful armament, premium due to more powerful weapons

Olfert Fischer Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
10 pcs. 57 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Olfert Fischer Mk.2
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
10 pcs. 57 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
6 pieces. 47 mm guns

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Olfert Fischer Mk.3
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
10 pcs. 57 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 57 mm guns

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs, in folder with the other upgrades it recieved

Olfert Fischer Mk.4
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
2 pcs. 24 cm guns
4 pcs. 15 cm guns
6 pieces. 75 mm guns
8 pcs. 37 mm guns
1 piece. Torpedo launcher in the bow
2 pcs. Torpedo launchers - amidships (2x1)
2 pcs. 90 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 75 cm Floodlights
2 pcs. 57 mm guns

should be a fitting br considering its age and specs, since it was upgraded and changed some cannons for bigger and stronger ones

Helgoland Mk.1
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
1 piece. 30.5 cm Cannon
4 pcs. 26 cm Cannons
5 pcs. 12 cm Cannons
2 pcs. TORPEDOBAAD AF 2ND (NO. 6 and 7)

powerful vessel. nicely placement here

Helgoland Mk.2
Shipyard: Orlogsverftet

ARMAMENT
1 piece. 30.5 cm Cannon
4 pcs. 26 cm Cannons
2 pcs. 57 mm Cartridge guns
4 pcs. 37 mm Revolver guns
3 pcs. 37 mm Recoil guns
2 pcs. 8 mm machine guns
2 pcs. 38 cm Bow torpedo tube
2 pcs. 35.5 cm Torpedo guns
2 pcs. 90 cm Mirror projectors
2 pcs. TORPEDOBAAD AF 2ND (NO. 6 and 7)

powerful vessel. nicely placed here

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Warthunder_Norway

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Quite a few vessels that are simply too old for War Thunder and some odd BRs (three 4-inch guns at BR 5.0?), but a nice selection of ships for Denmark-Norway. I definitely think that Bjørgvin could work in the main tree too considering Gaijin’s stance on incomplete ships

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Doe to me not knowing what to compare these vessels to the br’s and ranks are far from the way they should be

Some are quite old, but i believe most of the coastal battleships would work they way it is now, at lower brs and mabye spawns closer to the middle g the map?

Guess we might see this type of vessel in the future

I’m all for it, but:

  1. I would absolutely love to see it with 🇫🇮Finnish warships added into the 🇸🇪Swedish tree, just like 🇫🇮Fin vehicles are already in the 🇸🇪Swedish ground forces.
  2. BRs you propose seem to be all over the place. Tordenskjold at BR 2.7? A ship with 2 x 210mm, 6 x 120 mm and 6 x 76mm protected by up to 178 mm of armor fighting against Fairmiles and K-3 sub-chasers? This makes zero sense.
  3. shouldn’t your “RDN” ships actually have HDMS prefix?

That said: I would love to see how Monitors would behave in the game, and where would be the best spot to put them into. E.g. HDMS Gorm in its ultimate configuration (2x 150mm, 6x 87mm, 2x 76mm, 2x 57mm with 178mm belt @ 23.2km/h) would be such a bizarre vessel to balance. On one hand it’s not far off from AF D3 (2x 105mm, 1x 37mm, 2x quad 20mm, 2x 15mm with 40mm belt @ 22.1km/h), so BR 3.3, but on the other hand it’s both: so much more (primarily: armor) and so much less (primarily: low fire rate of the guns). But: No way in hell they should be at the BR 1.0 - I would throw it into BR 3.7 and see how it plays? This whole tree will be super-tricky to balance, which is why I absolutely love it!

Overall though this tree sounds exactly like what I would expect from Swedish (they really should rename it to Nordic) tree: Bizarre and amazing vehicles!

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So i changed the tree a bit, i have not updated the suggestion tough, tought i’ll see if anyone have suggestions/ideas on how to improve it

it is quite hard to get the br, lineups and placements right here, ecpecially since this vessel type doesnt ecist in game yet

i removed some of the old and added newer ones i discovered

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I’d personally recommend that you try to compare the ships, especially destroyers, with in-game equivalents. A lot of the destroyers are British types and we have similar ones in-game. The most powerful destroyer available here is likely the S-class in the form of Stord and Svenner, and even they shouldn’t be above rank 2 BR 4.3 in my opinion. Even the weakest of the coastal defence ships meanwhile have multiple heavy guns and none of them should be below high rank 2 at least, and I’d say most likely fit around rank 3, but not even the Bjørgvin-class should go to rank 5. Basically I’d say you probably want to switch the destroyers and CDs around in your tree. You could also condsider giving Denmark a bit more space, I definitely think there could be a tech tree configuration of Niels Juel as well and they also had Type II Hunt destroyers just like Norway. Below is my own mockup of what a Danish-Norwegian-Finnish line in the Swedish bluewater tree could look like, with Norway in blue and Denmark in red, yellow section being premium ships. It’s a bit compressed, I’ve had to omit some ships and not specified variants to fit everything but I think it gives some idea
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