Naval is in weird state of existence

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theres like little to no reason to grind the german naval tree same line of reasoning for the japanese naval tree they got nothing to offer many naval trees are made completely invalid by the existance of the american and russian naval trees heres a jist as to why

TOP TIER

GERMAN
bismarck
the barbette fire mechanic makes it basically useless agianst other high tier BBs
and the fact you can just buy the gniesnau 79.99 and just be better further invalidates its existance

also german BBs are the only ones to be one tapped easily from fire mechanic at top tier due to magazine placement as if you try to do it to USS iowa it hits the shell room and she shrugs it off

also the entire naval community hates the german tree due to the scarnhorst being bugged on release which is gaijins fault not germany now the entire tree suffers

JAPANESE
yamato
can be one tapped ammo racked by Uss texas at 6.7 which is really sad honestly for biggest BB ingame no where near as durable as IRL some are 7.7s are decent but thats it

ITALY

Rome
lacks a decent reload or armor with high pen and low filler not to mention rest of tree is buns

literally zero reason to grind any of these countries

the best way to fix naval right now would be decompresing top BR a max of 9.0 and 9.3
so if they do rework it they have room to move around based on there abilitys

JAPAN fixes
the yamato would likely remain at 8.7 with as its basically is nothing more than a glass cannon
ITAKY fixes
rework br for some of there BBs as there not insane and there guns are rather weak
GERMAN fixes
something to counter balance the one tap magazine of the fire damage to barbettes as germany by suffers the most from it whether they add magazine flooding or something which can counter balance the death sentance of magazine fires and it would be moved to 8.7 cause without the fire mechanic its a rather balanced BB performance wise

IOWA and SOYUZ would be raised to 9.0-9.3 as they are a whole class of there own

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IOWA and SOYUZ perform aswell as scarnhorst on release day one pre nerf btw it takes a whole team to kill both

also france isnt on here as i rarely see them so i dont know there issues

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I’m holding off getting most of the top BB’s until they’ve been here long enough to get a discount at one of the SL sales! :)

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I personally dont think the issue lies with Yamato, Roma or Bismark. Or that of Vanguard or Richeliu.

I think those battleships are reasonably well balanced vs each other and are at the correct BR. None of which really need any meaningful changes beyond continued refinement and normal bug reports (Which I havent seen many accepted so far) Only exception there is maybe Roma needing to be 8.0 instead of 8.3.

The issue is having 9.7 Battleships at 8.7. That completely destroys any semblence of balance. Its like having the Rafale at 13.0 or Leopard 2A7 at 11.0 and just expecting it to be fine.

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japan germany do suffer when fighting even yamato in 1v1 will loose to 7.7 colarado if he lands his rounds its sad

and german boats get spammed at there barbettes faster than you can fire exstiguish making them pratically irrelevant at there br and you cant even angle the barbettes so its unlikely also the mechanic they added which if you load less shells allows you too not die from shell room hits saves every other BB but germans as magazine size never decreases for some reason and you cant flood the mag too so its pointless to play ESPECIALLY with 79.99 bismarck for sale

france suffers from similar problems so im told as germany and japan

just grind US or RU and your good you can beat anyone basiaclly