NAVAIR - FOIA Document Library Name Document Name Description Document Description Record and Disclosure of Invention 2022-006587 Record and Disclosure of Invention Concept Papers 2022-006587 - Concept Papers An Outsider's View of the Phoenix/AWG-9

LOL

Seems to show the AIM-54 is underperforming in total thrust and initial acceleration.

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:) @Smin1080p

is that a classified

-.- no it proves the U.S AIM 54 is weak and other stuff

It’s been released under FOIA; the download link is to the official US navy website and it has various redactions.

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æ i got scared when i saw smin pinged

The missile hit a target at 50.000ft from 110 N miles, but still reached a height of 103,000ft that is the best any missile has ever done. In the past or currently.

The USAF claim the AMRAAM bested it recently:

Plus there are probably a few missiles with longer range that haven’t had details released yet (Meteor, etc.)

Thats almost 204km for all you us-non US ppl reading this btw

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“non-us ppl”

This graphic for the record range AIM-54A shot is pretty cool (And has extra info about it)

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the source is a primary source . it was published to as a :
asd
and approved by hire staff of the academy.

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It’s not a primary source. The information stated is incorrect in several areas. As I mentioned, better (real) primary sources have been forwarded.

They pulled information from the sources shown above, not from primary sources.

and it has other sources : can you tell me , where does it gets this from :
asssd
if it is probably used from other sources , surely data must be the same.

It’s not too bad, but the author uses a lot of creative rounding at times

(Irrc they even mention the pre and post burn mass discrepancies across their sources in the paper)

It states clearly it does not use classified sources, and as far as I can see it clearly states where it got certain information from;
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398367636213334018/1156440158795747338/image.png?ex=6514fa53&is=6513a8d3&hm=05b924d014e32759246f56155eb99357bde1f6c50c2e4bd3cf3d9b1c1b9449bb&

At the bottom of the page in question it states the information came from the F-14 NATOPS which actually has incorrect information on the missile. They note these incongruities on page 60.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955829235493273680/1156442460927578162/image.png?ex=6514fc78&is=6513aaf8&hm=694126a5d456a2c6c970c297558a99bbc41978d4d7a9a872d68305de3d09780c&

remember , classified is not :
1- restricted
2- confidential
it is says that it has 1 or 2
but secrets are kept away

Precisely, and MOST of the information given is dubious, as stated even by the author. Also, this redacted copy of the document is quite old. The document was given in it’s entirety from a more recent FOIA iirc but I cannot find it currently.

Anyhow, documents that are more reliable and do not state erroneous information have been presented as well which contradict the dubious claims in this document and as such the missile will be corrected I presume by next major patch or so.

are there any text about the missile seekers boresight capabilities?