At least they didn’t take the tracks off the new German Leopard. It’s missing a machine gun, a laser warning system, and now even proper gun depression angles. As usual, they introduce a vehicle, only to spend decades “fixing” it afterward. If they wanted to equip a Leopard with the Trophy system, they could have just added the Leo 2A7A1. In the game, the A7 and A8 are identical, even though sources—including Wikipedia—state that the latter has better armor and survivability, at the cost of lower mobility. Furthermore, Germany has its own domestically produced laser warning system for its tanks. There’s a big difference between displaying a tank at an exhibition and actually using it on the battlefield. Also, my friends and I are experiencing server issues and packet loss (November 15, 2026).
It’s honestly the sorriest tank at top tier Sweden. It’s not going to be saved for Germany even if they added all that. Pack it up, that tank was DOA at least it’s better than the T90s but that’s an extremely low bar.
Playing US or Russia it’s honestly free food see this tank. At least Sweden, Israel and Italy still have good versions of the tank like the strv being best still.
The funny thing is that they didn’t touch the Strv 122B+’s gun depression angles, so it’s still at -9°. Sometimes I regret choosing Germany. But I’m not going to play it until it’s completely fixed.
There is already a thread for the vehicle where you can discuss it:
You can also read through the discussion for when it was on the dev server:
But a TLDR:
German version has not been seen with one IRL.
German version has not been seen with one IRL.
The vertical gun angle limits are based on data directly from manufacturer.
Not a source.
“better” isn’t anything the devs can use to make changes. estimates in percentages or similar would be needed.
Find proof of it being mounted to the 2A8 and make a report.
well, unfortunately, germans have yet to install one(I mean LWS) in their 2a8’s, so yeah, unfortunately the way it’s in game is correct.
He is neither the first nor the last person to demonstrate that Gaijin has made a mistake—yet the company simply denies it. Whenever someone submits a bug report, Gaijin promptly closes it, claiming that everything is fine and that it isn’t a bug at all. Alternatively, they might argue that there isn’t enough evidence—even though a single article was sufficient for them to nerf the “Leopard” tanks. Players repeatedly provide ample proof that the gun depression—the downward angle to which the cannon can be aimed—has been implemented incorrectly, but all these efforts ultimately prove futile for the players.
Moreover, it’s quite strange: for about three years, the Leopard 2A7V had a gun depression range of -9 to +20 degrees—and now, with the introduction of the 2A8, they suddenly decide to worsen this value? A coincidence? I hardly think so. In my opinion, Gaijin unfortunately seems to have a bias against German tanks; if you look at the history of how German tanks have been integrated into the game, the versions found outside the German tech tree have consistently been better. And that is, to say the least, very conspicuous.
Yes not seen in real life like the F15IA?
Yea girlie… About the 2a7+ completely irrelevant to 2a8 or 2a7V.
It’s going to be 5 years minimum if ever lol
Well thats because the Strvs dont use the L55A1 which according to Gaijin is the reason for the depresion limits. Of course there is 0 proof that it is but thats secondary apparently.
Why adding incomlete mockup vehicle in to the game then?
There’s enough reports about LWS already ;) All of them rejected. Devs won’t add mockup LWS system on a mockup German tank ;)