Thats the suggestion limit but they don’t really tend to implement planes that never left the ground effect anymore. I think they just have the suggestion limit lower to see what people dredge up.
Personally I’d consider “pure blueprint” and “made the engines” effectively the same 90% of the time. Most proposals involve an existing engine. I agree Gaijin is likely to hold off on never flew stuff for as long as they can, its their branding afterall. But given how much of a mess and how much complaining some of the Soviet ships cause I want that to be as long as possible so I’m against anything that brings it closer. So I have a blanket no to every plane that never flew, even the ones I like and kinda want to fly.
That probably is the case, though I remember the F-16AJ was implemented despite later information even disqualifying it and having the suggestion removed.
So I’d say 99% of the time they’d pobviously prefer a real aircraft, but they don’t completely disregard their options.
Fair enough, in terms of information available they probably are.
Suggestion rules say this is a vehicle specific part since the engines were specifically for the Ki-201, which technically makes them specifically parts of the Ki-201 that were completed, rather than some existing engines.
I can’t speak for everyone obviously, but I feel like these have a very bad reputation for being “the best” upon introduction. It feels like Gaijin is specifically digging in less complete designs to bring one nation to the top. The same reaction happened to the F-16AJ from other nations if I remember correctly, since it was the best F-16 at the time.
Then again ships do have quite a bit different development, withthe design essentially being fully complete before construction rather than having a prototype phase that planes would have in which the design can be modified or changed.
Problems with my article I later found out (it was written 6 years ago):
I did not mention that full-scale construction drawings had been made.
I said that 3 Ne-230 engines were built and bombed. In fact, as many as 5 Ne-230 engines may have been built, and they were probably not bombed as some books claim. Rather, they were destroyed when the war ended.
Ne-130 section is still accurate.
Personally I consider this to be a paper plane. I suppose one could argue that it had “vehicle specific components” made, but I think it is unlikely to be implemented to this game, even though I would want to see it.
However, there is no evidence in primary sources that an actual Ki-201 prototype was in any stage of assembly, despite what some books claim. The real development process was already exceptionally fast considering that the design process started perhaps as late as April, 1945.
Just saying, we are watching the thread. So behave.
Suggestion has guidelines which must be followed.
Now, a Vehicle suggested may never be accepted by Gaijin into game. But as a suggestion it can be allowed.
Please understand that
P.S. I am one of the few Japanese people who can dig deeper in research for this vehicle
Honestly, it’s a neat plane so it has my +1, not to mention Japan needs all the vehicles it can get. Honestly, I don’t see the issue with paper things, as long as they’re fully designed and finalized I say go ahead and add them. There seems to be this unnatural fear that just because a couple of paper things are added we’re all of a sudden going to have WoT 2.0 rather than WT. But honestly, this game has a long way to go before it becomes anything like WoT, just my two cents
For the R2Y2 the fuselage of the aircraft was built and flown as the R2Y Keiun, the R2Y2 Keiun Kai was a proposal to replace its Aichi Ha-70 piston engine with 2 Mitsubishi Ne-330 Turbo-Jets. While the Ne-330 was an unfinished prototype the air frame was proto-typed and flew in its prop configuration.
Is it possible that two versions, one with the Ne-130 and one with the Ne-230, could be added? Specifically for the gap between the Ki-84 hei and the Ki-200, as that is a huge gap and anything that could cover it (two fighters in this instance) would be helpful.
+1, from reading the discussion above I’m convinced it scrapes past the realm of fantasy, and it fulfills a very longstanding gap in the Japanese tree. Discussion of the Ki-201 date back since when the Korean War was the official cutoff of the game, and its high time it finally makes its presence in game, and back then, instead of the Ki-201, we got the R2Y2 family – which, at least for the V1 is fine, save for the entirely fictional Ne330 engines, but the subsequent variants which changed up aerodynamic/intake configuration were definitely too far imo (made sense for back then’s game balancing at least)
Regarding comparison to the F-16AJ situation, I believe its inclusion in the game is a “temporary positive”, it was fine given Japan would’ve had to wait an entire additional year to catch up with the F-15J, but now there should be serious plans to replace it with a real F-16 variant, and it seems a Thai F-16A is the perfect contender especially if a Thai subtree were to happen.
Overall +1 for the suggestion, however I believe many are voting for the Ne-230 over the Ne-130 because it has a higher number in the name, despite having lower thrust.
Maybe in the future put that poll at the bottom or after the engine section.
Ki-201 should absolutely be added, many don’t realize that axis nations where not able to continue making vehicles after the war(unlike allies). Any flushed out “paper or unfinished prototype or mockup” should be added to axis nations. I’ve made a tech tree in the tech tree maker of all possible vehicles, and there are many things in my research that could be added to rank V. The more the merrier for axis.
+1
