My biggest fear might be coming to War Thunder, captured vehicles!

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Firstly, we are entering a stage in the game where we’ll be limited in terms of adding MBTs (Main Battle Tanks) to each nation’s tech trees. We already have some of the most advanced versions of certain vehicles in the game, and if they aren’t the very top versions, we’re probably only 1 or 2 upgrades away from reaching their peak possible improvements.

With each update, we’re getting vehicles from other nations added to different research trees in the typical “copy and paste” style, where the few differences between them (if there are any) are either in the ammunition or slightly different armor, but not much different from the original version. Some even introduce new weak points, like with the Leopard 2A7 HU.

I fully understand the need to add the same vehicles to other nations that acquired them this makes sense ! However, I worry that ongoing disputes between countries, especially in regions where we know conflicts are currently happening, could eventually cause the game to lean even more in favor of specific nations, like Russia, which is already quite strong in the game.

In the current conflict, we’ve seen that Russia has captured various Western vehicles for display and possibly to study how to counter them in a future scenario something I hope never happens. So, how could we maintain balance if Russia were to obtain modern versions of American, German, British and French vehicles in the game ?

In my opinion, if this situation arises, modern captured vehicles from other nations should be introduced regardless of who captured them as event vehicles, premiums, or even future Battle Pass rewards. I don’t see any other way to balance the nations besides this. Russian players are already known for just pressing " W " on their keyboards and managing to destroy three enemy vehicles without any particular strategy, so imagine Western vehicles being added to an already strong nation whether through vehicles or current top-tier aircraft that are already in the game.

You might be thinking : “But we already have captured vehicles for other nations at mid-tiers (5.0 / 6.7).”

Yes, we do, but these are vehicles that have always been relatively easy to counter and didn’t have the support of aircraft or armor systems (like spall liners) that would make them tough enough to withstand three or four hits.

Leave your opinion in the comments if you have a better idea for introducing captured vehicles into nations that are already strong due to their own development capabilities in the global war machine or if you think this won’t happen in War Thunder.

Your opinion is important.

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I both think we do need it and don’t need it because of that it gives more variety to nations with few different vehicles. But its i can also see the perspective that its iritating to fight Us and then they use an t80 against your russian t80.

But i think its fine with captured vehicles in low tier bacause there its more fun then in top tier. So i think they should not add top tier captured vehicles but they can add low tier captured vehicles.

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I completely agree with you. I really hope that they never do something like this. If I remember correctly a vehicle needs to be used by said country or be the result of a research programm. I think the reason why there are captured vehicles in lower brs is due to the fact that they where used extensively by many countries in ww2.

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Yes, some nations definitely need vehicles to compete within the game. But looking at the current conditions, the nation that would benefit the most from captured vehicles would be Russia, and if China were to attempt something with Taiwan, it would also gain significantly in terms of aviation and MBTs. My concern is specifically about nations that are already strong in the game do they really need these vehicles in their standard tech trees? As I mentioned: it is possible to achieve balance, but that can only be done through Battle Passes, events, or premium vehicles.

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Yeah i think its only nations who really need it that should get it. so nations like usa dont get more op planes.

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I just worry about how strong they can become, especially when they test themselves in conflicts. We’re approaching a point in the game where it will be nearly impossible not to introduce modern captured vehicles, even if they’re only used once in a while or modified to use the ammunition of the nations that obtained them. This would reinforce the idea that they would be better accepted by the community if introduced as rewards for Battle Passes and events.

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Americans can receive vehicles from various allied nations since they are participants and the creators of the current NATO. However, I would support the creation of a new “nation” where all the Western blocs present in NATO would be available, featuring 2 or 3 versions of their respective MBTs and aircraft. If this specific nation were created, it might make the idea of captured vehicles by Russia or China more palatable, as we would have a specific nation to combat them on equal footing within the game.

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That would be really nice but the problem is that i think its gonna be hard to find many vehicles and if they gonna make i think it needs to start from like rank 3 to 5 because theres not many differant ww2 vehicles we dont already got in the game.

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We’ve encountered various “copy and paste” scenarios throughout past updates, and we’re still facing this issue. It’s not necessarily bad to have the same vehicle in different nations if they are genuinely offered and donated to confront a conflict.

They could be added with new modifications, like “sandbag protection,” where Shermans were reinforced with sandbags and sometimes even covered with concrete to gain more resilience. However, we know this didn’t work effectively since the increase in armor was practically negligible, only adding weight to the vehicle and affecting the crew’s operational capacity. They often felt safer but ended up taking more risks than usual in certain situations.

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Sandbags whould be a nice addition to the game but i feel like not alot of players are gonna play that nation bacause its just the same as some of the other nations in game. And i think thats would be a big problem. Because people think it will be boring but still i would like it to happen. Because i feel like we need another nation ingame.