Move the MIG-23ML to 11.0

R-24R is better sub 8km. Especially if used in a dogfight

R-60M is all-aspect
Aim-9G is rear-aspect

oh im sorry, i always forgot about britsh phatom

No one said that BTW.

@Morvran
R-24R and Skyflash are extremely similar on paper, and in practice for me.

i have a question, do you use df mode in Mig23 or just normal MTI?

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depends on the range used at. Skyflash struggles a lot more when much closer to the target.

Sub 8 ish km, R-24R is better. 10 ish km Id guess about the same. 15ish km (not that id ever fire at that range in the Skyflash because its buggy as hell) skyflash is in theory better.

You think its performance would not be better at 11.0?

i can tell you that R24R may be the best missile in 4-6km

It would be too storng at 11.0. Thats the point. Of ocurse any aircraft would be stronger at a lower BR

That Is what BRs are for.

But that is no justification to stick a jet at a BR where it would be totally broken just for the sake of making it OP

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Yeah thats what I’ve heard from others too.

I and the opponents that attempt to kill me use MTI.
Normal would eat chaff too easily.

But yeah I haven’t spaded the F-4J cause I own this thing instead.


Maybe I will, depends on if Gaijin adds more than 2 - 3 aircraft for USA this year. Ideally they add like 10, and one of them is F-18A.

You sure?

Its performance is not deserving of 11.0

im not talking about radar mode, im talking about beyond/within visual range, cause the DF MTI can just seen as a DF PD, just need lock and shoot

In terms of a head on, it’s great. It’s also more accurate than PD

Issue is when an enemy goes like… 45dg aspect

if you think Mig23ML compliant with 11.0, then im sure your IQ is not compliant with the average value of WT players

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buddy

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which is already not that high

Glad you admit no one said what you claimed.

@MoZi3
Except for the fact MTI is still chaffable outside notch angles, just harder to chaff than standard.

@BlueRooster57
One trades flare resistance for being flared in the head-on.
R-60Ms are best used as R-60s with better initial lock characteristics.

No way out, the PDV HDN mode will performance worse because the problem of radar blind speed range, the TRK MTI is almost best when encountering that situation except the TRK PD

I quite literally quoted exactly what you said.
Again, refer to:

The entire point of HPRF over MPRF is the velocity gate reduction. Its only justification for use is it being better at retaining locks than MPRF.