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Why should it be at the same BR as T-80B ?
It loses a lot in the mobility/optics department and lacks thermals. It’s commander can’t even fire the main gun. Armor is better but in plenty of occasions 80B’s armor is sufficient as you’ll still face DM23/M774 and equivalent rounds.
They are already fighting T-64B at 9.7 which has the identical round, similar mobility and better optics.
Armor is more-or-less the same relative to 9.0 rounds. Shall we bring it up to 10.7 as well ?
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In my humble opinion and as a fan of USA vehicles, I think the T-72 1989 should moved up to 11.3, and move the M1 Abram down from 10.7 to 9.7 and then give it M900, the turret ring can be penned by 6.0 SPAA and T-72M2 Moderna should be 11.7 or 12.0, it has a BMP-2 strapped on the turret, only russian mains thinks this is fair, it’s 2 vehicles on top of each other, its crazy that M3A3 facing two tanks at once.
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Interesting how you bring up armour being superior to the T-80B, but claim that it’s not important as both are largely resistant to the most common rounds they face at 10.7. But suddenly that armour is insufficient at 9.0?
I never said it’s insufficient.
All those three vehicles have almost the same effective armor against 9.0 tanks, meaning if you know how to defeat a T-64B you’ll know how to defeat the T-72B as you won’t lose common weakspots you’ve learned to shoot at.
The AMX-30 Super is one of the best 9.3s in the game. I’d take it over the T-72B any day of the week.
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How so?
In the big map yes it good
Not in typical map CQC BS.