You’re the first person I’m aware of to post
I’ve never mentioned “great”, nor “glass” when speaking about those issues.
According to your Logic Kfir Canard And J35XS should be 11.7 cause i perform 5.1 times better in Kfir and its 6.8 times better in J35 compare to average player. Kfir also does have only 2 İr missiles and it has to get into gunfight, same gameplay if you compare it to F5.
the kfir canard has 11.0 flight performance, but it’s armament and countermeasure count hold it back. It however doesn’t need many CM’s because it can fly back to base after tanking a sparrow. The J35XS is on the same train but the locomotive is a big boy instead. Both of these planes outperform the f-5c and e in every metric, except the kfir canard trying to rate fight the f-5e, but doesn’t need to since it has all the privileges not to engage in a pure dogfight.
İ play with Tomcat very reckless compare to my other top tier planes thats why my performance chart is even better on Ja37D or Mirage2K which both plane are inferior to F-14B but Seems like you only care about my Tomcat performance. Would you like to check my other top tier planes? Well let me tell you you’re not gonna enjoy the results.
the ja37 is indeed a bad plane, the mirage 2k of 12.0 has great missiles but the mig19s can almost out dogfight it, the j7e absolutely smokes it.
F5’s are broken, this is something you cant deny. İts damage model is even better then some attackers, it has exceptionally cold engines which makes it very hard to lock on with any type of rear- aspect missiles and energy retention at 0.90-0.95 mach is bs. How do i know this? Cause i have F5C and F5E as well.
I’m not denying that f-5’s are broken, they’ve been built to be broken. The F-5C is vastly inferior to the E when it comes to flight performance, but it’s so much more ergonomic and easy to aim.
you’re telling due to nature of uptier Mig23’s suffering is normal
i didn’t say that
while compeletly ignoring that any 10.3 will also suffer against MLD because of 1 Br difference,
i said that and you’re crediting yourself for it. No brod, the br gap is not that important. There’s a HUGE leap in weaponry quality and flight performance alone just between 11.0 and 11.3… oh wait, it’s not huge except between all planes and the mig23 ml.
also Mig23 is actually quite slower then other top tiers. Plane will start to rip its Wings around at 1450 while Mig29 or F-16 can pass 1520-1550 easily.
so what? The plane is slightly slower, but it has better missiles than say f-16a block 10, mig23 can follow the radar games, the f16a block 10 cannot. And no, f16 does not pass 1520, otherwise it would be the fastest plane in the deck, but that prize goes for the mig29 🐄🐄🐄🐄. The MiG23 ML will also outperform the f16 above 6km of altitude at any scenario that doesn’t involve a dogfight.
Bein faster doesnt mean shit if your enemy is made of full of F5’s and supported by F8’s and F4’s where each one of them compansates other ones weaknesses, thats why F5’s are so strong and lets not forget due to how easy to fly with this plane any person who has one single braincell can perform much better then average Mig23 player.
🤡.
You can outpace most missiles, besides the fact that aim9j is horrible, aim9d can’t be led and is easily 1flareable, f5’s are strong til two turns, you can simply run away, you’re literally 500kmh faster than them. If DEFYN can run away and energy trap an f-5c in a fugging etendard you can do it even better on the mig23 ml lmao.
Mig23’s armament doesnt matter shit when all you need to do is simply fly low or press flare button once while Mig23 has to get into position and force you to get into slow fight so he can kill you, but this will only result getting 3rd partied %90 of the time.
huh? have you ever used your r24r’s? Literally free kills below 4km of distance, even if y ou fly high to phase out the mti and you spam all your chaff. Even if you dodge it it will still proxy on you. It’s like a saturn 5 rocket lmao. The MiG23 can pull 12g’s calmly and doesn’t need to get into a slow fight at all, it can perfectly copy mig19’s flight style and rate to 30 degrees SUSTAINED.
even yet, r60m’s are pure all aspect missiles, they’re more sensitive, and now that gaijin is so happy about the new unwanted and suboptimal to fly fog effects, aim9l’s can’t lock jackshit further from 0.8km whereas r60’s are still reliable.
Gaijin balances any vehicle according to overall performance and average player’s performance doesnt come any close to my performance, thats why Mig23’s are still at 11.3 while F5C is still sitting at 10.3.
it’s more like 90 percent player performance. Explain then why the J5N1 is at 5.7 despite flying a lot worse than the p61 that sits at 4.0, why is the vampire fb5 at 8.0 when the f80 a5 can shit on it all day? Why is the Mirage F1c with just four missiles and a very boogazooga radar and worse flight performance than the f-4e? Then it definitely is much worse than the mig23 ml, and dont’ get me wrong, the mirage f1 is a very popular plane
you just want to keep clubbing. Stop talking what happens now as if that happened ever because we’re barely one week in the update and it is NOW when your floggers are starting to suffer.
You just keep complaining and crying in this thread and claiming Mig23’s op while everyone, including myself proved that you are wrong.
İ tried to be reason with you and explained why you are wrong, yet you keep refusing to understand and want to make your F5’s even more op.
At this stage you stop bein clown and became entire circus.
So all i can say is get good and stop crying.
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“the j7w1 is fine”
you in fact wrote three paragraphs defending your claims, i’m just summing up your nerdposting because unlike most of you i don’t like to degrade the interlocutor.
Bodoh.
Thanks for proving me correct. Notice how “fine” and “great” are separate words entirely.
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you said “respectable” which means “above standard” and the j7w1 does not climb above anything, even compared to 4.3’s.
İ never said im upset because my Mig23’s are facing uptiers, on the other hand you’re crying like a baby because you’re facing Mig23’s while using F5’s.
Also you dont care about Mirage or Viggen you just care about how your F5’s should stay above anything else in those br gaps.
Honestly,stop crying.
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how does this say “i don’t care about the mirage”
you’re the one crying lmao, down bad enough to steal my words, i’m just asking what everyone wants.
also this statement
far before you even talked about mirage and viggen.
Sure kiddo, whatever you say.
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I’m amazed that you cry this much, not only in general, but specifically about the SMT and MF.
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Now imagine mirage 3C with no flare nor rwr, only 2.5 missiles and without thrust bonus…
Sorry I thought we were all comparing who has the worst grind
The SMT/MF actually got worse when they added the CM pod as stock flares. It has huge amounts of parasite drag and negative performance.
bruh
how about F4J and F4S with 4-6 FOX1 and 2or4 FOX2 ?
That must be complicated to have features to protect yourself 🤣
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Their flight model won’t let them go past the first head on
i’ve gotten the smt recently and it slaps the f-5e in air rb.
Just keeping my speed and ganking in when the f-5e is busy. A la zero way. The only thing that can stop the mig21 smt is the j35d/xs because they have 12.3 flight performance a whole br below.
Keep dying to zeroes.
Also Kfir Canard.
move MLD to 11.0 now. it loses to phantom with bombs. ahahah
Sure, once it looses All-Aspect IRs and the R-24Rs are nerfed
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