Yep. Enemy frigates spawning closer to me than destroyers when I’m in a DD just means I’m drastically more likely to pick on the frigates first.
Also, if they want frigates to spawn at the same place as PTs because of the tech tree they’re in (which like Ranks has nothing to do with gameplay), then I want to spawn battleships where destroyers currently spawn. For consistency.
Still wondering why the hell I would pick a frigate over a Destroyer when they share the same spawn while Destroyers are 10 times larger, faster, better armed and armored.
For example, I am now using Z46 as “Coastal” option on my 7.0 lineup. So why on Earth should I replace Z46 with Karl Marx or Köln, both of which are smaller, have smaller guns with smaller projectiles, are slower and have worse armor?
It all depends on the “Frigate” (not all Frigates are frigates since the devs stream line or make class errors), but many of them shouldn’t be used overly above their BR as not all can be universally used above like some other vessels.
For a 4.0 ratting imo:
• Ayanami class Destroyer, one of the best 4.0’s armed with late WWII AA gun designs that will devastate many ships.
• Type 41 AA Frigate, the potent power of a Battle class but at 4.0, it can be devastating if left unopposed.
• Project 1331M corvette a bit of skills are required to last as long per match but it is unopposed in close in AA abilities, it has rockets that reach out to 6000 metres, has a high rof 3" cannon & potent torpedoes (+ the niche of concealed depth charges), I wish the Volksmarine line would get theirs soon.
• Buckley class DE, That thing is rising to fame for me as while slower than most & only having two 5"/38 cannons the WWII AA fit is gnarly for 4.0 as that amount of 40 mm/60 can rip apart destroyers types.
• Restigouche class DDE, the main cannon is the key as that 3"/70 Mk. N1 will rain down damage on tonnes of ships & can be kept bow on to limit damage taken (hmm why couldn’t they have the funds to stick a second mount aft).
Now for your 7.0 lineups yeah I’d to take the Z46 over the SKR as those things should’ve lower BR’s realistically (3.7 for the rocket ones) but to see one at 7.0 would be torture.
But the Köln class/Type F120 will be slightly better above BR & at 7.0 as while it has only two 100 mm cannons their RoF makes up for it & secondary armament are 40 mm/70 AA which are far better than 40 mm/60, both cannons have HE-VT ammunition that’s devastating to aircraft & the ship also has m/50 rockets that can in a full salvo be catastrophic to even the largest ships (sank a few battleships in EC with the sistership Lübeck).
But at it’s own BR these ships rival the soviet 4.3 SKR’s.
Still if you didn’t use the Type 1936C Zerstörer in this example I would say the Type F120 is the larger ship as that thing is just shy of 3000 tons which is larger than many destroyers around 4.3 area.
If you ever get another slot an Köln as an AA platform isn’t a bad idea for your lineup & to be bought out if needed in places the Z46 will suffer.
Karl Marx is not bad. Imho. Just a bit pointless, cause just one BR tick higher are the F224 Lubeck and F220 Koln. Both are lethal ships. Not as strong as the SKR-7, but up to 3000m (maybe less) lethal. I always avoid long range duels (don’t spawn first and then just go towards the boat area to get cover and prey). Its offc map dependend…a flat open map won’t suit frigates. But a good number of maps offer close to mid range opportunities to nuke DDs, CLs and boats. Especially naval aces are easy to kill…they just see ‘yay a frigate’ … then they swoop in for the kill and when they realize the extent of firepower you migh set free its to late… an average DD won’t last long.
No, no.
Most ,if not all, frigate are good or normal. Some frigates are great.
In fact, only 2-3 frigate is useless.
which ones?
I very much agree. They’re just “support” destroyers meant to rush to boat spawn, being able to grind coastal tree.
Albatros/Alcione not playable on 4.0
Chidori on 3.7 also.
The rest are rather good, or even excellent.
In fact, there are more unplayable BB