Oh they do, but you are assuming it’s C5, it’s 190kg and isn’t purely booster powered, it’s always going to accelerate slower. The booster is to enable ramjet activation at low speeds.
The ramjet offers 3 times the internal energy that a rocket motor in the same missile does. That’s MBDA’s claim.
What else would it be? All c after 5 (not including c8 as that’s basically 120d iirc) got the same kinemstixs/booster, so it wouldn’t really matter if it’s a c-5 to 7. and I would be surprised if that’s a d model amraam considering how old the presentation is
Well you are assuming it refers to amraam at all.
I don’t see what other medium ranged missile it would be other than amraam. Based on the time. It’s likely c-5 to 7. Amraam is probably meteors only competitor for nato planes not including f-35 (I heard the us is delibretly slowing the integration of meteor on it?)
MBDA also make the MICA. So they might be comparing it against the MRAAM they actually build
True, although mica is only offered for rafale/mirage though, it’s not really a competitor to meteor
Is it not a possibility that they are comparing to foreign missiles? PL-12 etc…?
They are 2 different classes of missiles.
“This is what we build currently, and this is what the LRAAM can do”
I mean fairs, but personally I think they’re most likely comparing it to their main competitor, and the graph does make it seem a lot better (cause it would be irl, no one’s doing notch fights like they’re doing in wt lol)
Isn’t meteor a decent bit bigger than amraam
Most meta “normal sized” fox 3 imo will probably be future mica em/rf ng, then r-77m, pl-15, derby er (i forgot what went before the er that indicates better seekerhead), then aim-120d, aim-260 then meteor (wonder what guidance delay meteor would get). Might be forgetting a few
Yes, heavier and longer
Isn’t PL-15 more like a Aim-120D/Meteor equivalent?
Yeah but just basing its gonna be super good due to it likely getting the same guidance delay of .3 as pl-12 ( and all missiles on here will get the previous guidance delay of their earlier versions) which is why I think amraam/aim 260 will be the worst for high off bore shots. Meteor is really the only “new” missile that I got no idea how maneuverable it will be off rail
idk what gaijin will do with the gripen E i can see them giving it 7x meteors or denying it cus its only seen on mock ups. if they deny it i think its stuck with 4-5 meteors + 2 ir missiles which is still decent ig.
Also mica and r771 are also the only missiles that are able to be shot outside of their gimbal limits, so r-77m and mica ng will stay being the greatest at high off bore shots. Even though other radars like the ones in gripen e and aesa eurobomber do get the more than 90 degree gimbal limit, they can’t actually launch their arh missiles outside of that (not sure about meteors gimbal limits). So su-35/su-57/rafale(thru irst) whatever can literally stay completely defensive in the notch while firing missiles
i think it would refer to R-77/R-77-1 or mica-em.
Doesnt Meteor use the same seeker as the MICA? or at least one based upon it? Based upon the potential lack of information it will probably have a C&P MICA seeker. So the same gimbal limits and all.
But HOBS for a Meteor isnt that important imo. When you need HOBS, you’ll use an ASRAAM or IRIS-T. If you are in a BVR fight (and therefore using the METEOR) you’ll just fire it straight and then sit in the notch guiding it with the CAPTOR-E
I find it likely they’ll add next gen fox3s earlier than next gen fox 2s. Next gen fox 2s will likely be super hard to balance. Mica ir, asraam, modernized 27et and r-74m2 ( so basically all long range fox 2s) will become the meta. Especially the ones with datalink (so mica ir, r74m2, 9x blk 2 and maybe asraam blk 6? (Not sure about asraam)) will be oppressive
IMO, the biggest imbalance at top tier at the moment is the lack of HOBS for all. Gen 5 IRs are the best way to do that. But im guessing we’ll see a lack of flare resistance at long range and lock range limits