Modern ARH (FOX 3) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

Actually, im of the opposite opinion.

We are already maxing out what maps can handle, and the next round of ARH missiles just creates a greater potential for more inbalances. But one of the biggest inbalances at the moment is the state of the IRCCMs.

With Magic II and R-73 just cheesing in a dogfight with their good HOBS and Aim-9M being trickier to defeat but much weaker kinematically and with a majority of nations using the Aim-9M… A few nations have an overwhelming HOBS advantage in a dogfight, which do still occur on the regular.

Gen 5 IRs would help bridge that gap and would bring everyone onto a roughly equal footing, though Im fully expecting “IIR” to be completely flareable still

IIR missiles will ruin top tier air rb/sim . if they add IIR missiles then they will also add mica ir and rafale can carry 8x mica ir , it also outranges every other IIR missile. rafale will easily dominate everything else in the game. anything without a BOL pod will suffer due to low number of CMs. they also denied IIR missiles for 2025 . 16v16 with IIR missiles would be pretty bad.

This can just be mitigated with lock range limits, which im fairly certain we already have for the R-27ET and heck, the Aim-9M should have significantly better lock ranges.

They denied Gen 5 aircraft like the F-35, but I dont recall it ever being stated that there would be no Gen 5 IR this year

they denied it yesterday.

So… Wont be September major update, probably not the kind of thing planned for the usually smaller October updates but I still reckon it will be the core part of the Decemeber major update, which was what I was thinking anyway, . They dont say anything there about “wont be in 2025”.

Gives time for them to finish refining them via SAMs and add more of them in SAM form

Heck, they were denying the Typhoon being added “anytime soon” in the weeks leading up to its announcement

im not sure but i think bvvd said that they were planning to add IIR missiles along with 5th gen fighters.

point is if they add IIR missiles it will have better flare resistance than already existing ir missiles , so you would need even more flares to defend against such missiles. low number of CMs would be a major issue especially in a 16v16.

Most IRCCM missiles are currently 1 flare defeats most of the time. So actually requiring more than 1 would be rather nice. but this is off topic for now

can we test this theory right now ?

No, but i’ve used enough AIm-9Ms to know that hte IRCCM doesnt work in front aspect and most other missiles are easy to deal with. Heck had a magic II be defeated by some thin air earlier

It takes a few good bursts to throw them off.

If they fixed it that would be fine aha.

The Meteor is pretty old too. I doubt the U.S. would make a new missile the size of the AMRAAM just to be worse than the Meteor than can already be compared with the AIM-120D-3. Same goes for the AIM-120D which entered service in 2014 (afaik), but we might even see a newer AMRAAM until the AIM-260, like the AIM-120E

Meteor’s seeker is AD4A’s derivative

So most likely MICA copy paste

Note that meteor has solid propellant to accelerate in the initial phase

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Considering how little is known avout both missiles, no such claim can really be made

Not sure it can be compared with D-3 really…

Which is fine? Meteor isn’t there to be used 10km away, that’s what ASRAAM is for.

And that’s the beauty of throttle. It can slow down to wait till the target “reappears”.

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Yep.

There is no telling how will META look like when missiles like Meteor come. Remember, all missiles are made to be notched very easilly by skilled players. That may change when Meteor comes and bigger maps too.