+1, just to add, but the XGCS-2 was a prototype development for a 2000lb guided bomb purported to have a BROACH warhead which was intended to be used on the F-2 as well, and personally I’d love to see it in the game.
Here we see inert bombs being tested on an F-4EJ, likely for aerodynamic testing, however, it was never intended to be fielded aboard the Phantom.
We will look into it, thx.
F-2A (Early) suggestion is pending approval, stay tuned. :D
F-2A late equipped J/AAQ-2 FLIR pod or AN/AAQ-33 Sniper Advanced targeting pod ?
Updated Air-to-Surface missile section
That’s cause F-2A is ~13.0 minimum more than likely.
Just nerf the loadout. There are already enough examples. It doesn’t matter as long as it has only IR missiles. Even if it has graviton radar and not AESA radar, what good is it without radar missiles? And the nerfed loadout can be buffed depending on the development situation. (e.g. Ammunition for Strv 122 and M1A2)
British Phantom: got nerfed radar
Swedish Saab 105s: got nerfed missiles (Rb 24J to Rb 24)
Swedish JA 37D: got nerfed missiles (Rb 99 to Rb 71)
Russian MiG-29: got nerfed missiles (R-73 to R-60M)
Chinese J-8F: got nerfed missiles (without PL-12)
And it probably goes without saying that the F-14B and Pantsir were implemented in the same update.
In conclusion, Gaijin’s excuse that it would be OP in the dev blog is not very credible.
That is with nerfed loadouts rather than impacting radar intentionally.
British Phantom’s radar isn’t intentionally nerfed.
F-14B is an okay 12.0, and Pantsir missiles are dodged perfectly. Neither are OP.
M1A2 & Strv 122 have their best ammo.
Well this version is the late with the newer J/APG-2 radar on so I dont think it needs to be nerfed. In a way the Early is the nerfed version since all it will carry is sparrows and has the original J/APG-1 radar still which im not sure how powerful the AESA will be when it’s limited to just sparrows.
But this specific version is endgame gen 4+ for Japan.
The reason Pantsir now easily dodges is due to changes to the physics logic for missiles. Let’s think back to when Pantsir was just around the corner.
The M829A2 on the M1A2 and the slpprj m/95 on the Strv 122 were later additions.
Yes, the physics changes that came WITH Pantsir, it had the physics from the start.
So yeah, F-2 will come when the BR for it is the next one in line, and that’ll be cool.
We don’t have the BR necessary for F-2 Early nor the prototype.
There seems to be some misunderstanding. I’m not talking about the version in this thread, but about the earlier version we should have gotten instead of the F-16AJ, mate! :)
Of course, given the current performance of the AIM-7, I don’t think it needs a nerf, even if it has an AESA radar. But I think it’s an alternative that can be shown to anyone who cries “AESA radar? That’s OP! It should be 13.0!” Also, as I explained earlier, if it turns out to be weaker than expected, it can be buffed simply by uncapping the loadout.
Pantsir: Announced in 27 February 2023
New physics for missiles: Announced in 31 May 2023
I demonstrated by example that balance can be adjusted through adjustments in loadout, which Gaijin calls one of the ‘soft factors’.
What is your purpose at this point? Quibbling someone’s words?
That’s new physics for everyone else.
Pantsir & 2S6 already had the new physics since the Pantsir released.
And radar is a hard factor, not a soft one.
AESA is happening whether you like it or not, thus its BR isn’t here.
Did I say “nerf the F-2’s radar”?
A sparrow being guided in via AESA is significantly stronger & lethal than one being guided in via standard PD.
On top of all that, F-2 is a missile bus.
So a radar vastly superior than F-15C with even equivalent loadout, and F-15C is looking to be 12.3.
Scroll up to re-read examples related to ammunition.
You’d seriously fly a Mitsubishi F-2 with only 4x or 6x Aim-9Ls? Never to be upgraded since there’s no 12.0 to replace it…
There are already F-16A, J-8F, and Netz. In my view, this is an option worth considering current meta that the AIM-7 has gone dumb.
To reiterate, “as I explained earlier, if it turns out to be weaker than expected, it can be buffed simply by uncapping the loadout.” In this case, Gaijin can try changing the IR missile to AAM-3 or give AIM-7M. (or both)
There is also an option to nerf the radar, although I don’t like it very much. The radar is of course a ‘hard factor’, but if it was changed conditionally ‘until there is a proper BR expansion’ it would have been much more gently accepted by people than the F-16AJ. Also it is better than the F-16AJ even for the purpose of giving Japan a CAS option.
Anyway, this is good enough. Right? We’ve been off topic too long. If your goal isn’t to spark another flame war, why not make a discussion on the subject of this thread instead of bite my words?
