There’s barely any information regarding how many it can carry and where it mounts them, but i assume it can only carry 4 AAM-5’s and probably on the same pylons where AAM-3’s are mounted
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Personally, AAM-5B only already both datalink & LOAL (lock on after launch)
But AAM-5A no datalink potential
AAM-5 is an IR missile, it doesnt use data link as its fire and forget basically but both missiles use LOAL
The AAM-5 might have datalink, it’s kind of unclear. It’s not mentioned directly in the AAM-5B upgrades, or papers we have on the regular AAM-5. Some papers on improving the missile’s effectiveness mention improving ability to find targets after launching, or going for specific targets, but don’t explicitly say it’s datalink. I think there is some confusion, because diagrams of the missile do include a signal receiver/transmitter. However if you actually read things like CP-Y-0115F, it’s not included with the guidance system under appendix A; Instead it’s under it’s own section, appendix D. which talks about it being used for the arming of the missile when firing.
While no first hand source states it has datalink, almost every single second hand source does. Also, while it may seem weird that it’d have datalink but not have it be explicitly mentioned, even stuff like the AAM-4; which we know large amounts about it’s datalink due to TDRI anniversary papers and patent information. Has essentially no mention of having datalink in the types of papers which I have for the AAM-5. Which is about the only reason I say there’s a chance it does and not “it definitely doesn’t”
Also, it being IR doesn’t prevent it from using Datalink in anyway, stuff like the R-27T and variants are IRs with datalink, and later 9X blocks do. If anything the AAM-5 would be the one to gain the most from it. As we do know JP weapon datalink works by combining information based on detected error rate, meaning a datalink signal is maintained even while terminal. And the J/ARG-1 datalink transceiver does not alert RWRs, so you could stay undetected while providing information via datalink.
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Follow up to this, the AAM-5 definitely does not appear to have datalink (COLOS), I have corrected the wikipedia page with proper sources.
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Thank you! I’ll check the sources and update mine here!
Bro why isn’t this passed to the devs already, someone bring this to gaijin’s attention now that the F-2 is added
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- The F-2 doesn’t even use the AAM-5 in service, although compatible, it’s primarily used by F-15Js.
- It’ll come when everyone gets 5th gen IRs.
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production F-2’s got their AAM-5’s now iirc
Yep, only took them a decade to fix the wing vibration calibration issue lol.
Will F2A still only be able to carry 4 AAM5 and 4 AAM4B. And what about the F15JM?
Correct for both
Aw man, looks like Japan top tier will be Su30s and Rafales and maybe gripen e.
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Some Japanese Eagles are getting the “golden eagle” treatment, it seems, and are getting AESA radars, computers, and the EPAWSS EW system, along with new displays and AAM-4B and AAM-5B integration.
No AMBER racks at the moment, I believe, so it’ll be 8 AAM’s at most.
Even with amber racks doesn’t that mean just more AAM5B? At least when 5th gen gets added in 2027 or around then japan has f35 and maybe with the korean tech tree Malaysia gets kf21.
Why would the AMBER racks only be capable of carrying AAM-5B?
Oh idk, the f15jm can’t carry aam4 on the outer wing pylons so i thought Gaijin would do something similar. A f15 super interceptor with AESA and 12 AAM4B can definitely be in top tier.
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They’re losing AAM-4B/5B integration, not gaining it.
Then instead of using the locally developed aam-4b’s would they just opt for the 120D/C’s?
Yeah, but thats not really pertinent to this thread.