But should be better since Magic-2 uses 4 cells seeker, while R-73 only uses 2. ^^"
Personally, I’m hoping they add a 4x Magic 2 loadout to both Mirage 2000Cs and then keeping them at 11.7
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Ohh man if that’s the first time meeting a R.550 M2 was from a Dassault Mirage C-S4 wait until you meet a Sepecat Jaguar IS at your own BR as that thing also carries the same missile at 11.0.
Basically all Mirage airframes at 11.0 onwards carry that AAM, So you’re gonna have to learn to preflare that thing (honestly a surprise it tracked, I guess they’re praying to the right deity).
• Dassault Mirage 2000D-R1, 2×
• Dassault Mirage F1 (C, CT, C-200) ×2
• Dassault Mirage 2000 (C-S4/C-S5) ×2
• Dassault Mirage 2000-5F ×4
• Dassault Mirage 4000 ×8 (E, it’s eight not six, I’m having a brainfart)
At least it’s a better IR AAM then their SARH options at these BR’s imo (well the 11.3/11.7 airframes).
Never will happen though,…
Up to 8 mate ^^"
(Dual pylon on inner wing hardpoints)
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Who knows, Gaijin already tried making Mirage 2000Cs 12.0 until feedback convinced them to hold off the change.
Now, Mirage 2000Cs will get buffed next patch with new flight model buffs and countermeasure buffs. That might push Gaijin to make it 12.0, and it will need 4x Magic 2s at that BR potentially…
Countermeasure buffs ? if it’s not about the Flare/Chaffs separation that arrive next patch, then i’m curious ^^
Hopefully, bumping the 2000C-S5 to 12.0 can open the door for a 2000C-S3, preferably thoses modernized with the RDI, to take its place at 11.7
true since the br changes 90% of the time are way too late
Yes its about the flare chaff separation. It’s one of several aircrafts to get increased CMs due to that.
It would only make sense as an addition if it only has 4x Magic 1s or Super 530Ds + Magic 1s, and Mirage F1C has Magic 2 removed though
So a Mirage F1C with Super 530F and Magic 1s dropped down to 11.0
And Mirage 2000C-S3 modernized with Super 530D and Magic 1s at 11.7. We would then atleast have a 4x Magic 1 carrier
Wait oops, I’m an idiot I did read 2× on the droptank but my mind went as only two extra even through the wiki states 2× per tank which would be ×8.
I’m a bloody gronk for these slight errors sometimes.
Having the Super 530D and Magic 1 for the S3 modernized would not make sense, given the fact that they got the RDI after some S4 were upgraded as 2000-5F, in the end of the 90’s. The Magic 2 was already around for a while then, and we can also add that the 530D came around the same time as the Magic 2.
The main thing that would make the upgraded 2000C-S3 worse than the S5 is the engine, it’s still using the M53-5, so the impact on the flight performance would be quite signifiant when compared to the later S4 and S5, powered by the M53-P2.
This is already enought to justify a lower BR than the S5, artificially nerfing the weaponry would not only be inaccurate but unnecessary and damaging : it would be really rought to be stuck with rear aspect missiles at 11.7, especially when you have only 4. The F14A is the only 11.7 currently in that case, but it has twice the ammount of missiles and can carry the Phoenix.
I would also think that a 11.0 Mirage F1 with Magic 1 might be in a worse spot than 11.3 with Magic 2, because theses are basically the bulk of its firepower, the 530F is useless against anything with chaffs and the 530E is badly outdated at 11.0, so you’re already left with only 2 missiles that are efficient.
In my opinion, if it would become a thing, only the F1C should be concerned, the F1CT should stay with the Magic 2, also by the fact that it’s a 90’s modernisation.
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That is an issue in your part actually.
All aspect missiles require pre flaring to some extend.
If you want to be safe regarding headons you have to pre flare and perhaps even cut the afterburner.
The same is true for R-73 or even R-60M in very short ranges.
Wrong.
It is not…
Read the thread properly
I do not see the issue Sir.
Perhaps you misread or ought to explain where you believe I went wrong.
Dear friend, the most part of the frustration was caused by me in my Mig-21 playing vs IRCCM missile at 11.0, which shouldn’t happen, it went straight for me, head on, I think I pre flared as well there, but it didn’t even flinch. I play this game long enough to know about all-aspect missiles and no, not all all-aspect missiles require pre flaring, Aim-9L is flared easily head on, I’d argue even Aim-9M. This whole situation was caused by a bunch of factors stacking on top of each other and I already kinda got it. It was not caused by the lack of pre-flaring
I see.
You are aware of the possibilities of min ranged R-60M and R73 I assume.
Disregarding the state of various missiles in game at one point or another you got slapped by Br compression plain and simple.
Wen can do nothing but lamment together.^^
Mirage 2000 S4/S5 are lovely to play right now ofc.
At other battle ratings different planes have similar advantages.
Usually Magic 2 should not hit when you are preflaring with cut afterburner.
Yesterday I grinded 420k rp in mig-21, I’m not going back to playing 11.0 for a while now, ahaha.
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