Seems like a solid buff for both IR and SARH department.
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Is the Magic 2 now more flare resistant than the R73
No, they’re identical.
Gaijin don’t know how to read french so they copy pasted from R-73,… The French joke will continue
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What a joke. Both 2000D and 5F could get Missile Warning Systems (D2M), yet they don’t. M2000-5Fs A-G radar submode is completely missing with MPRF TWS mode. Now they just copy and paste R-73s ECCM into R550-2. MiG with new 27ER and 27ET buff as well as R73s and F-16 with four Mikes + two Sparrows (which she cannot launch due to SMS and Radar not supporting it.) , Mirage simply cannot match against other top tier jets.
The F-16 can launch AIM-7M, this was thoroughly discussed. The complaints are valid though, and I hope we see the Mirage 2000 blossom into a true competitive fighter next year.
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F-16C Blk.50/52 in US service never did fly with Sparrows. There are lengthy discussions about why it didn’t and very likely couldn’t on F16.net and DCS forums and, Only few export countries (possible via modifications on SMS and Radar) are flown with Sparrows. If we go by the “export modifictions are allowed” rule we should see wide variety of ordinance (such as Penguin ASM) Yet we don’t.
There are well founded studies showing that the F-16’s HPRF radar mode is capable of guiding the sparrows just fine. The F-15 did it this way, the F/A-18 did it this way… the block 50’s required modifications to shoot the sparrows would have been relegated to downloading some software. The same reason the Mirage 2000-5F is equipped with the Super 530D at the moment (not including the HPRF guidance requirement), since it never used it in service either.
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PL-11 should be added then ?
No, the J-8F lacks a HPRF radar mode to guide the Sparrow based missile and does not have a continuous wave transmitter. It is solely capable of mid-course for active homing missiles such as the PL-12.
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If you have those research studies, i would really like to take a look at those. i’m aware of the possibility of guiding sparrows in HPRF mode instead of CW horn/antenna, yet i haven’t seen any country (besides Egyptian Blk30s?) even a testbed vehicle with such upgrade (availability of AMRAAMs very likely diminished the funding of those projects anyway.)
As for the mirage, it is understandable considering they didn’t go far and gave 6 A/A capable pylons. given that micas are too advanced for the game, they gave Fictional 530Ds. But i don’t really think Sparrows were needed on Blk 50 and Barak, They can already carry 6 very potent IR missiles with IRCCM. Hell, i would definitely choose 6x 550II loadout over 2x 550II and 2xS530D if they let us do.
All F-15’s and F/A-18’s that launched Sparrows guide them without a continuous wave antenna.
The F/A-18 dropped the continuous wave transmitter in favor of HPRF guidance. It also stated that this was first shown on the F-15 in the same source. (Source)
According to the DTIC report, AIM-7 has been integrated into F-16s produced since 1992, which stands for F-16 Block 50/52.
And AIM-120 and AIM-7 were integrated through separate processes. AIM-120 used government funds and AIM-7 used company funds
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will the live server F-16s have the high PRF tracking mode necessary to guide sparrows in PDI?
They already do. The F-16C/D have HPRF (Head-on) modes.
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honestly i dont see the problem. Mirage 3C is subjected to fight aim9l without flares then the f16 can fight missiles that are slightly more difficult to flare than the average ir seeker
This isn’t the right mentality to view this with.
only in search not tracking
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we arent talking about an unflareable missile here. Neither one that every plane can carry 6 of. I don’t see why russia should get basically 6 thrust vectoring magic 2’s while france gets 4 on a worse platform and has to trade bvr combat for them. Magic 2 could atleast be the best ir missile then flare resistance wise