Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

How would MICA IR best out AIM120C5 when it has less max range than MICA EM? Do you talk about the 180° turns capabilities?

MICA IR has benefits in terms of BVR capability over AIM-120C5. The MICA IR cant be flared away, but C5 can be notched/chaffed. Further, MICA IR does not provide any warning and is completely silent.

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It would beat out the MICA EM in BVR capability even though slightly less range. Currently MICA EM screams at any RWR within a 20km range. It can also be notched and chaffed. The MICA IR also has a higher gimbal limit so its able to find targets easier after traveling awhile.

So you are comparing an IR missile to an ARH.
First of all moderno airplane have systems that can detect incoming IR missiles secondly it’s an Ir missile
So from long ranges it’s easier to flare than Is to defend an aim120c.

brother man it doesn’t burn long enough to be detected and has some of the most advanced irccm in the world

agreed, but you have to get much closer. Which means you have to dodge a bunch of enemy missiles before finally being able to fire yours.

Radars and seekers in general are also going to become more resistant to notching, multipathing, and what not. Not to mention PESA and AESA are not that far off now, which means sneaking from an unexpected angle is going to become increasingly difficult

Even if It has the best irccm from 20km It still can be flares it’s not and IIR missile.

IR missile or not, it has BVR capability. And F-14/15/16, Mig-29/Su-27 and many other planes in-game do not have any MAWS to detect these IR missile launches. F-35 is a long way from now. Eurofighter is the only reasonable platform to detect these launches and also come in a reasonable amount of time.

We have IIR missiles in-game. Try and flare SPIKE ER, you can’t.

We could expect It to come in a future where everyone has maws.

To think MICA IR would only come once F-35 is here is absurd.

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The mica Is not IIR

Sir, it is. It is imaging infrared.

It Will come when everyone has and omonolog tò It.

Then we would Need countrmesures made tò stop IIR missiles.

game balance is not relevant to the original argument

MBDA’s website

He started talking about it’s implementation into the game.

Here

Yes and no, consider this:

AIM-120C-5 will have more range but will need to get closer because its radar will have people defending when it’s 20km away.

MICA IR will have less range but won’t need to get closer because people won’t be defending against it.

So the effective ranges might be similar.