What is absurd about it? The F-14 is 70,000+ pounds in some configurations and has better turn rates than a lot of planes?
You are not considering the differences in basic airframe design between the two… or really anything about the characteristics of these fighters if you make the assumption that bigger = worse turn performance.
it doesnt ingame, I launched at mach 1.85 and it topped out at mach 4.3ish at 12000m
4.5mach is absolute speed for the missile in game so reaching that 4.3 is still a lot
Top speeds given for AIM-7, R-27ER, etc are 2+ mach at even higher altitudes than 12,000m so this is actually showing how the Super 530D reaches quite a high top speed tbqh.
Yeah I forgot about Mirage 4000 also have better canards, I take back what I said earlier, it’s an overstatement.
I have read on wikipedia (so i’m cautious with theses data) that when 37 of the Mirage 2000C-S4 and S5 where uprgaded to the 2000-5 standard, the RDI radar that were on theses planes were put on the 2000C-S1 to S3, that were originally equiped with the RDM.
If it’s right, it mean that it is possible to get a late 2000C-S3 with RDI and Super 530D, but still with the weaker M53-5 engine. It is especially interesting given the room that we are getting with the 2000C-S5 going to 12.0.
Someone have more data about this ?
Yes, we need another copy paste Mirage 2000 to research…
it’s not really a copy paste, the M53-5 engine has only 8800 kgf instead of 9700 for the M53-P2, so it can be at a lower BR than the 2000C-S5. Given that, outside of the mirage 4000 prototype, it’s the only 4th gen aircraft for France until the Rafale, you should not be surprised to see the rank 8 filled with a lot of variants of the Mirage 2000.
if this is the definition of a copy paste, then what can we say about all theses Spitfires and Mustangs variants ?
Well sorry do disapoint you but copy pastes will be the future of the game as once the last airframes like F18/Rafale/EF2000 and later F35/22 and other 5th gen. Only thing they will have left to add is variants from existing plane to give fake lifetime to the game lol. Also consider copy pastes is already a major part of the game as now in modern era many nations use same tanks/planes because export so…
I though those retrofitted S1 became redesignated as newer variants
its top speed is decent ingame but after motor burn out it loses speed much faster than other SARHs, overall the AIM-7 is faster in BVR engagements, and the 530D isn’t significantly faster buring WVR to make up for it https://streamable.com/gwc8hw
Well the 530D still has a drag problem unfixed so…
Now that Mirage 2000C-S5 is going to BR 12.0, will devs revisit it getting 4x Magic 2s loadout? @Smin1080p
The issue is that i saw nothing about a modernization of the engines, so it is likely still the older M53-5 : it become the main difference, and it’s still a major one.
You should use this as a source than Wikipedia since it’s the most accurate source on the Mirage 2000s that you’ll find: 5.4 MB file on MEGA
no it can’t : Magic-2 you know? the one missile that can’t go below certain BR, as it was the same for Magic-1 not far ago (apart the A-5C as it was a premium, you know)
not the good question – is the Mirage 2000C-S4 gonna sent to 12.0 with it? since they basically share everything apart slight modifications?
currently i’m more thinking that Gaijin will add some Rafale M F.1 3/6 months after they add MICA-EM to 2000-5F (which is the ultimate model of M-2000’s)
That’s a different question though. If S4 also goes to 12.0, I’ll ask for 4x Magic loadout for it as well. Atleast if S5 gets 4x Magics, then it justifies S4 staying at 11.7.
Probably not anytime soon for Rafale F.1. Consider that Mirage 2000-5F still has some more options in terms of upgrade before we see Rafales.
The RDY radar can still be buffed with automatic mode which is coming, the Magic 2s can be significantly buffed to 50G with AIM-9M type IRCCM added to it. The Mirage 2000-5F can also get MAWS added. There’s still several options to buff the plane considerably before we can ask for the Rafale. When they add the option to separate flares and chaff, the Mirage 2000-5F will again get more CMs.
So here’s the list of upgrade options left for M2K-5F:
And I imagine devs will do the above to keep the 2000-5F competitive before adding Rafale.
This also means that Mirage 2000-5F will keep going up in BR over time keeping in pace with newer planes that get added, just as how the Mirage 2000C went up in BR now from 11.3 to 12.0 (planned), although will be more drastic with the Mirage 2000-5F, could easily go from 12.0 now (12.3 planned) to 13.7 in the future. Mirage 2000s also have internal jammers so it does not need to carry jamming pods as it has it inside the plane once jamming is added. Jamming pods take up a pylon, have weight and cause drag, and Mirage 2000s would forego those negatives.