MIM-72E missile does not appear to be smokeless

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I recently unlocked the Chaparral for the US ground tech tree. Once I unlocked the MIM-72E, I noticed that the missile does not appear to create less smoke than the stock MIM-72C. I thought the MIM-72E missiles were smokeless engines going by the missile data for War Thunder. Below are screenshots from the test drive showing the smoke trails of both missiles the Chaparral can fire.

MIM-72C:

MIM-72E:

This is where I got my information from, so I know it might not be 100% accurate. So, I am hoping somebody that knows for a fact if the MIM-72E is a smokeless rocket engine or not.

Also wiki confirms this too.

If the MIM-72E is indeed a smokeless motor than this bug needs to be fixed. Currently the Chaparral is the only SAM that does not have IRCCM on its missile so they can be easily defeated with countermeasures. Having the upgraded missile be a smokeless motor will allow to you the opportunity to launch a missile undetected.

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It used to be smokeless, I think the 72G is as well, but both got changed at some point randomly and hasn’t been changed back since. If it’s not already, I suggest bug reporting it.

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Looks like it has been bug reported and acknowledged about 2 weeks ago. Let’s hope it gets fixed sooner than later.

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Fingers crossed! (Cries in Imp. Chaparral with this thing as our top tier SPAA)

We need more bug reports on this to garner more attention to the problem. There is a report I found where Gaijin acknowledged it but it’s been 2 weeks since then, and they fixed the ADATS smokeless motors in the first week of the update breaking those too.
More Reports = More Attention

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I’m going to make a big report today, the amount of little things that get patched and stuff like this gets left is ridiculous. At this point make the thing useable and give it a br increase for all I care considering it has no lineup anyway.

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It also appears that the G variant has an uncaged seeker with pd and better flare resistance

If you can somehow prove the G variant is supposed to have an uncaged seeker and report it to gaijin, you will be my hero.

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Sad thing is they actually posted it somewhere where they had the manual and they tried to say the seeker doesn’t become uncaged until the missile is armed, uhmmm isn’t it armed as soon as you turn on the seeker??

Also there are a ton of videos and photos showing a smokeless missile being fired and they said I needed proof for that also, their ignorance is killing me. I swear they have people at a call center accepting reports

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Seems like its not really sooner than later… Still a problem

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Smokeless sustainer motor or both launch and sustainer motor… If it has 2 motors that is.?

I believe it’s just a single motor, it’s a modified AIM-9D after all, but it’s supposed to be completely smokeless, and it was too until gaijin broke it at some point and hasn’t fixed it since.

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Been broken for almost the whole year. Both MIM-73E and G have the bug.

There is an accepted bug report from like 10 months ago. All new bug reports get labeled “duplicate” and that old one is linked.

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It’s still a bug. Maybe in the next big update they will fix it :) (no chance.)

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I just bug reported it and they said its “not a bug” this shit is never getting fixed just like M735…

Ironic given that this just makes the MIM-72E a literal waste of SL and RP given its identical to the stock missile otherwise.

It’s only difference was that motor and its well known that was the case.

Not surprising though given gaijin’s track record though.

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Bug report are there , source are there.
No remodel require.
Just fix it already ! idk why it taking them so long.

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Honestly give up on the Chaparrel and the MIM-72…

There’s reports on the Chaparrel going back 2 years ago that have been “Accepted” and nothing has been done since.

They truly don’t give a shit and any fresh reports get shot down as they have “Already been answered” and “Still investigating” despite countless sources provided and even stuff Gaijin themselves agree should be corrected.

Bug reporting anything for this game is an absolute clown show that’s intentionally as painful as possible to go through as 99% time you’re speaking to a brick wall where logic and reasoning don’t apply instead double standards, contradictions and hypocrisy thrive.