I recently unlocked the Chaparral for the US ground tech tree. Once I unlocked the MIM-72E, I noticed that the missile does not appear to create less smoke than the stock MIM-72C. I thought the MIM-72E missiles were smokeless engines going by the missile data for War Thunder. Below are screenshots from the test drive showing the smoke trails of both missiles the Chaparral can fire.
This is where I got my information from, so I know it might not be 100% accurate. So, I am hoping somebody that knows for a fact if the MIM-72E is a smokeless rocket engine or not.
If the MIM-72E is indeed a smokeless motor than this bug needs to be fixed. Currently the Chaparral is the only SAM that does not have IRCCM on its missile so they can be easily defeated with countermeasures. Having the upgraded missile be a smokeless motor will allow to you the opportunity to launch a missile undetected.
It used to be smokeless, I think the 72G is as well, but both got changed at some point randomly and hasn’t been changed back since. If it’s not already, I suggest bug reporting it.
We need more bug reports on this to garner more attention to the problem. There is a report I found where Gaijin acknowledged it but it’s been 2 weeks since then, and they fixed the ADATS smokeless motors in the first week of the update breaking those too.
More Reports = More Attention
I’m going to make a big report today, the amount of little things that get patched and stuff like this gets left is ridiculous. At this point make the thing useable and give it a br increase for all I care considering it has no lineup anyway.
Sad thing is they actually posted it somewhere where they had the manual and they tried to say the seeker doesn’t become uncaged until the missile is armed, uhmmm isn’t it armed as soon as you turn on the seeker??
Also there are a ton of videos and photos showing a smokeless missile being fired and they said I needed proof for that also, their ignorance is killing me. I swear they have people at a call center accepting reports
I believe it’s just a single motor, it’s a modified AIM-9D after all, but it’s supposed to be completely smokeless, and it was too until gaijin broke it at some point and hasn’t fixed it since.
There’s reports on the Chaparrel going back 2 years ago that have been “Accepted” and nothing has been done since.
They truly don’t give a shit and any fresh reports get shot down as they have “Already been answered” and “Still investigating” despite countless sources provided and even stuff Gaijin themselves agree should be corrected.
Bug reporting anything for this game is an absolute clown show that’s intentionally as painful as possible to go through as 99% time you’re speaking to a brick wall where logic and reasoning don’t apply instead double standards, contradictions and hypocrisy thrive.
they know. and they dont care. the change was intentional cuz gaijin HATES anything nato/american and refuses to make anything the US ever made accurate.
M735 should have 353mm pen not 282, they admit it was changed in error and didnt fix it 4 years later.
they say E/G chaperaal arent smokeless motors and its not a bug, (which is WRONG/a blatant lie) but they dont care.
M833 should be on the M1 Orginal and M60A3 and it should have 475mm pen not 393mm.
M774 should have 406mm pen at0/373mm at 60 deg not whatever TF it has currently.
M830A1 MPAT should have 460mm pen and BLAST a KA50 or any helo out of the sky and HARD kill it way better than any 57mm or 76mm flak round… instead you get crappy poofs without a hit market 80% of the time. this is a heat warhead with a prograble fuze and a shraptnil cone inside the shell designed for fragmentation… its bascially a flying claymore mine for anti helo and infantry work. the only reason it kept any Heat ability was for anti APC/IFV… IT was designed to replace the M830 and M1028 canister which it did to great effect. but you would never know that in WT… it was nerfed into extinction cuz a russia helo suffered once upon a time and thats not allowed…
the F18C Early doesnt have the correct engines, radar, number of CMs or missiles… It should have 9Ms and 120Bs, but it doesnt have any of the things that make a C a freaking C… its a completely made up BS vehicle.
The F18C late doesnt have the correct missiles (should have 9x block1, and 120C5 and C7s) OR get lowered to 13.3br where it belongs.
i mean i can go on for a year with everything wrong/horrible about this game.