Germany dont want migs either or they woulda bought more…
either way that aircraft is part of our history and it is our decision if we want it or not, not of an US fanboy that doesnt want anything to do with it and only cries for more aircraft while the US is already getting the most air additions of all nations
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it should get Euro fighter that was and still is good…
germany has a real small number of aircraft left, do you know how long we would need to wait until they actualy add the Eurofighter? And remember Smin denied the Eurofighter being added recently for quite a while in the future. This Mig with access to R73 and the R27E missles is the last time germany will be relevant for 1 patch, our next addition with a long stop until the Eurofighter is the F4F ICE with AMRAMMs and the F4F airframe sucks against all the gen 4 fighters. Maybe germany will get and f16 /f18 from another nation but that is another matter.
But if you dont know the backround of a vehicle or why it is needed please dont just write it off immediatly just because you dont like it. You can do that with Russia itself that has airframes in access that can be added or with the US, but that is not the case for any other nation besides those 2 that need to take any air tree addition they can
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Gaijin implemented MiG-29G for germany tech tree in rank VIII soon
Except mig 29g never used r27et
i am completly aware of that, and what now? besides that i named E in general that includes the ER, while it is debatable if it should have that one as well, it doesnt change anything i wrote
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Interviews with former MiG-29G pilots confirms that the ER was present in the G’s weapon selector, it just wasn’t purchased by Germany.
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Talking about et it was never operated So it shouldnt be there
Same can be said for a lot of munitions though. Italy never operated Skyflash SuperTEMP on the ADVs. France never operated HOT-3 or ATAS on their Tigers. USA never operated Sparrows on the F-16 Blk50s. Japan never even operated the F-16. Yak-141 couldn’t even use any weapons, it never had a radar. But some things are done for balance.
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still wouldnt change any of my statement, tell me where in this thread was the ET mentioned? It was never mentioned here, if you have a problem with the ET, take it to the Dev server forum and complain there about it
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The MiG-29G would never be in game… They would never do that… lol.
In all seriousness, cool that its in game, and funny that you made this not long before it was put in game, but I am a bit skeptical of its portrayal in game (make sense for balance, not so much for IRL accuracy)
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I actually made this suggestion a couple years ago, just reposted from the old forums (with a couple of tweaks). That said I had no idea it was coming before I reposted, so good timing indeed.
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This is going to be amazing. Cannot wait!
“Technically possible” is the standard and has been for a long time.
The Yak 141 was never operated either and the version in game never existed ever. Additionally, GJ gave it IRST and CM, totally guessing where they would be placed. It’s really a fictional abomination of an actual demonstration aircraft & collaboration with the west that should not exist but does in WT.
There are so many missiles in game that were never in service with the nations that carry them. The Mig29Gs loadouts are 100% appropriate in WT.
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There is no evidence for this, I looked it up and the only thing I found in interviews of former pilots was that the R-27ER was only a proposal from MiG-MAPO.
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I should stress that I’m talking about our Luftwaffe MiG-29s, which are early aircraft. They also removed the Laszlo data link and the SRO IFF before the aircraft were handed over to us, so in some respects we’re less capable than other contemporary MiG-29s. From what we hear the latest variants are almost a different aircraft. I’d like to see our aircraft get some of the updates being offered by MiG-MAPO. The more powerful engines, better radar, a new navigation system, a data link and an inflight refuelling probe. If we got the new ‘Alamo-C’ that would also be an improvement - even a two nautical mile boost in range is still ten more seconds to shoot someone else! We won’t get many of those improvements, though we are getting a new IFF manually selectable radio channels, and improvements to the navigation system, including the integration of GPS. Most of our aircraft will be able to carry two underwing fuel tanks, which will also help.
There’s another reason why this interview is hard to believe.
MiG-29G had to operate in NATO operating airspace after unification, and this required fitting the Mark IX IFF, which works with the AWACS’ L-band radar, and this required replacing the mission computer with a NATO standard.
For full BVR combat, both the IFF transponder and interrogator had to be fitted, but in doing so, the NATO mission computer’s interworking with the N019 radar became an issue.
As this was not possible, MiG-29G was not fitted with the interrogator for BVR mode, only the transponder.
Because of this, the MiG-29G did not see much use with the R-27 (The only photo of the R-27 firing was taken in June 2003, before the MiG-29Gs were handed over to Poland.) in the Luftwaffe, the MIG-29G was tasked with dogfighting, while the F-4F ICE was tasked with BVR.
Transcription of interview with former MiG-29G US exchange pilot ‘Spanky’:
…the weapons computer is set up so that it will accept the long burn [Alamo]. If you put it on the airplane it’ll recognise it for what it is and one of the things we did in Germany… I’m not sure how you guys did it in the Hornet, probably the same as did the Eagle but you had a simulator plug where you’d hang an AIM-7 to tell the weapons computer “Hey, there’s a missile out here so do AIM-7 stuff”. What they would put in the rail was a little computer card that would simulate an AA-10 and they had two different types of cards, one for an AA-10 Alpha, one for an AA-10 extended range, the ER. The airplane didn’t care you just couldn’t (???) you put cards in both the inboard missile rails tell the jet that we’re simulating this missile out here in the weapons computer and as soon as you lock somebody up you would get the display for that weapon, so it’s displayed the engagement envelope would be much bigger with the ER than it was with the Alpha.
https://youtu.be/9uKCnIdXKPQ?t=3501
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Cool but this is get the usamain skill optimalization too after this go to the live servers.
Wow, I can’t believe my eyes
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As the MiG-29G got implemented as part of update 2.31 Kings of Battle,
Moved to Implemented Suggestions. o7
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