Mikoyan MiG-25RB: Catch Me If You Can

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I definitely want see bomber variant of MiG-25 in game (although I would prefer BM).

There are some uncormfirmed sources for R-60 and KDS-155 was allegedly on RBF. Since Gaijin only needs technical ability to mount it, BM could get them.

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Like you’d need RBF to have it, Gaijin would give every MiG-25 KDS-155 because PDSG/L and export PD/PDS’s w/ it exist…

Though I kinda doubt it’d get R-60s, but at this point I wouldn’t be surprised…

You dont need RBF. The ability to carry them is enough for a Gaijin (see MiG-23 or F-5). But even RBF would be a better option than RB. It still use SPO-15.

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Pretty sure MiG-25BM had SPO-15L as a part of the Jaguar system.

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Yep you are right.

Literally an image of a cockpit showing a weapons selection indicator…

Here: Cockpit MiG-25BM

With all due respect, the MiG-25RB is redundant compared to the BM (War Thunder context). Because BM can literally do the same job, and also carry SEAD and R-60s. Not to mention that it packs a better power plant and an SPO-15.

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“Much like any aircraft at the time with the option of R-60Ms for self defence, the MiG-25BM used dual APU-60-2 pylons, so it utilized four of those missiles if arranged”

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Star-34-Mikoyan-Guardian/dp/1857802594

Where do you see APU-60-2 mentioned beneath the MiG-25BM section, it doesn’t exist in my copy of the book.

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Also since you seem to be using Yefim’s book as a source, Where does it say MiG-25BM had it’s power plant changed?

I believe he has an older edition of the book, the most modern has no mention
Also:
“Starting from 1981, at least the MiG-25RB and its modifications could carry R-60 air-to-air missiles on external underwing hardpoints (at least the MiG-25RBF / RBS). In addition to free-fall bombs, it can use air-to-air missiles only with IR homing - R-40T, modifications - R-40T, R-40TD, R-60, R-60M (suspension - similar to interceptors ) - information from Western sources, not confirmed by more modern domestic data.”
(МиГ-25Р / РБ / БМ FOXBAT-B, -D, -F | MilitaryRussia.Ru — отечественная военная техника (после 1945г.))

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Well then it’s rather curious how they post a link to the exact copy I have… I’ll download an older one in a bit and I’ll check.

Although I’m kinda skeptical if RB can use AAMs, but I probably will stand corrected since I can’t check atm.

I’ve never said the BM cannot carry bombs
However, it cannot carry countermeasures nor R-60s. Find a photo with either and you’re golden

I also disagree with “the RB shouldn’t be added because the BM does its job”
First off, the two are very different aircraft, and there doesn’t need to be only one of them. The F-4E can do the F-4C’s job, should the F-4C be removed?
And if it comes down to one or the other, I believe it should be the RB that is added. It was more numerically and historically significant, with more definite specifications (there’s even a publicly available original Russian flight manual), it wouldn’t be shunted up in BR (nor delayed) because of ARMs, and its suggestion is not marred with controversy of someone who said

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I can send you a link to the exact copy of the same book I’ve used:

(God bless the Internet Archive)
There is no mention of R-60s for the BM

That’s the one I have downloaded.

And yeah, unless it’s mentioned somewhere elsewhere in the book, maybe in the “In depth” or whatever they call it section after the model/development overview.

Look, I’m all for adding every MiG-25 variant possible. But unfortunately, we’ve got a problem here. For reasons nobody seems to fully understand, there are whispers going around that the MiG-25 might only be added as an event vehicle because of balancing concerns. If that turns out to be true, then the competition between variants becomes very tight. The PD might be the first pick, but among the RB bombers, it makes more sense to add the one with the broader capabilities. I’m not attacking you or your suggestion; I’m simply saying that the BM is the better choice between the two, since it offers more capabilities and has better engines.

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Don’t shoot the messenger. This is 4 mentions that the BM could use R-60s.

https://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mig25bm.html?utm_source

https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/a-i-mikojan-a-m-i-gurjevic/mig-25bm-foxbat-f-/

Or ask @Blitzkrieg877