Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29M (9-15) - what the fulcrum would have been

The MiG-29 9.13S can fill that roll pretty well. It can pull 2 degrees more of AoA, has access to R-7ERs, R-73s and apparently R-77s along with an upgraded N019M radar. Not sure if it gets upgraded engines like the german MiG-29A/G or an upgraded rwr, but it would still be pretty good for a 13.0

It could have gotten the SPO-15T, as it was being tested in during the 1990s, but im not sure. (SPO-15T is essentially a digitalized version of regular SPO-15)

I’m hoping they’ll add the S without r77s otherwise it’ll get 13.3-13.7 Br…

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I need This to be premium for RU +1

I’d prefer it to be TT but i love this plane so much that even if added as a premium i’d buy It even though i already have the entire soviet tree researched lol

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Oh God, it’s already May 4th. Based on previous years’ update schedules, the major update trailer should drop by the end of this month. I really hope to see the MiG-29M in the preview!

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It would be amazing but tbh at this point i’m kinda pessimistic… I think they’ll rush modern stuff until there’s nothing else left to be added, then they’ll start filling the gaps.

The only MiG-29 we got recently, is a copy and paste MiG-29 passed to the devs for Israel lol, it’s a 9.12A…

Today is May 21st, and there’s not much time left before the major update trailer drops. Come on, Gaijin—please add this aircraft to the Russian tech tree!

Adding this with ability to carry R-77-1 plus pre sons of atilla FM for the fulcrum would be a dream come true

I dont think it would be compatible with the R-77-1 sadly. The longest range missile it could theoretically get, in my opinion, would be the R-27EA. If the EA isnt added the regular R-77 will be the best it could get for ARHs

Isn’t the only difference between the R77 and R77-1 the two stage motor? I thought all R77 carrying planes in game are R77-1 compatible but gaijin hasn’t given them it for balance reasons

IRL the OG R-77 actually never entered service with the RuAF, they went straight for the R-77-1.
And no the R-77-1 and R-77 have the same motor I think, the main difference is lofting, which increases range, as well as some aerodynamic modifications.
For a better answer you can check the R-77 forum page

no the r-77-1 is a bit longer and has a different motor, or atleast nozzle
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and the base r-77 is also able to loft

The old R-77-1 in the files had a 2 stage motor.

But when they added it to the live build, they changed it to a bit longer burning 1 stage motor like the R-77’s. There’s also some extra thrust that accounts for the extra weight, so they still accelerate about the same.

R-77 - 6 second single stage motor, 129.94 ms² acceleration

R-77-1 - 7 second single stage motor, 128.16 ms² acceleration

so the russian air force never used the normal R77? might aswell replace the R77 in game with the R77-1 then

but that would be rUsSiAn bIaS

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apparently lol, Su-27sm radar is to dogshit to take advantage of the missiles ability to compete in the bvr arnea, SMT has a decent radar but 6 missiles max will hurt it in bvr, su 34 can be a much stronger plane if it gets the R77-1 with its good radar set and can take good advantage of them

What I have info so R-77 entered service in 1994 and R-77-1 in 2011 (development began in 2003).

If you want historical accuracy then Russian aircraft should be restricted to R-27, because that’s still what’s used the majority of the time.

Wouldn’t be restricted to R-27’s, would have the choice of R-77’s and/or R-27’s. Which is how it is ingame. Its what the custom loadout system is for.

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