Perhaps they meant that the R-77-1 would be what was elevating the Su-30SM to 14.0? I really don’t think that the SMT getting 77-1s would bump it all the way to top tier, since it can carry at max 6 (assuming you drop the 27E’s) whereas the SM can carry like 12 and still have R-73s.
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And advanced versions of the r73s If I’m not mistaken
It’s likely that it can carry alot of advanced weaponry, but I was mainly asking about the R-77-1 since it’s coming next patch
Maybe Gaijin will be giving more R-77-1 if Russia really needs variety in aircraft especially with the potential of Su-27SM being converted to the SM3 version.
AFAIK and little bit out of topic, J-8F also should’ve got PL-8B, but ICYDK, as of today only J-10A will receive PL-8B in the next update.
I’ll reckon these advanced missiles will be actually implemented to already exisitng platform when the BR Decompressed again.
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I’m definitely for giving planes their historic armaments, unfortunately gaijin won’t decompress the BRs.
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Back to the old mig29 912 and 913，
Why not have the 27er removed and add r73 to 913, while move 912 down?
For 9.13:
r27r+r73 at 12.7. Satisfying for useful r73, Satisfying for other sides for no worrying 27er
Trade performance and sensors for r73 compared to 16blk15
0.3 higher than 16blk10 for having 27r
0.3 lower than jas39a for same lvl armament worse performance and sensors
For 9.12
r27r and r60m at 12.3.
Trade performance and sensors for r27 compared to 16blk10
0.3 higher than 12.0s ofc
0.3 lower than m2kcs5 for not having flr resist
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Doesn’t exist.
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yep
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I ever seen MiG-29K (Indian Navy), MiG-29KR and MiG-35 armed R-77-1. but never saw MiG-29SMT (9-19) mounted R-77-1
No problem gajin add R-77-1 and increase battle rating
You mean R-73M ?
Su-27SM3 engine unlike Su-27SM, carries 8 R-77 & R-77-1
But integrated R-73M and R-74 ?
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If I’m not mistaken it gets r-74s
USSR/RU tech tree no fighter aircraft 12.0 ~ 12.3 equivalent to F/A-18A from USA tech tree, and between MiG-23 group & MiG-29 9-13
MiG-29KR, MiG-29M2 (VVS) and MiG-35 might get R-74
Gap between MLD and 29 can be easily fixed by fixing radar on MLD and adding historical loadouts as R-73. Instead of MLD at current BR we can have 23P.
Then there is option for really weird additions as MiG-29UB/UBM but its weird as it doesnt have radar but it have powerful IR missiles as R-73 or R-73 + R-27T/ET according to variant.
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/a-i-mikojan-a-m-i-gurjevic/mig-29ub-fulcrum-b-/
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/a-i-mikojan-a-m-i-gurjevic/mig-29ub-9-53-mig-29ubm-/
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That would be nice, there’s something that i like in these late 3rd gen aircraft… perhaps a r73 mld would get 12.3 like the bison.
For the mig29s i say remove its 27ERs and keep it at 12.3 (maybe give it a 2 r73s loadout like the mirage with 2 magic 2) while adding the mig29S with ERs and r73s
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With fixed radar and R-73 definitely BR 12.3.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/r0milhEEy3RU
I agree with you about MiG-29 but with full loadout of R-73. If this would cause an increase in BR, there is always the option to add, for example, UB as I mentioned.
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That’d be excelent, our best hope for anything close to that happening would be when they add the 29M thus reviving the interest for fulcrums in the game, there are lots of variants left…
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I just Lost my hope to recieve any Mig-29 model soon.
In fact im afraiding that Gaijin will make Mig-29M as an evet vehicle at some point, or worse premium.
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Look at F-20 or F-18C early model man.
F-20 is one of my favourite plane and was hoping to recieve as tech tree vehicle but in the end Gaijin made the worst decision and made it premium vehicle.
I had to pay real money to get my hands on F-20 even tho i already had entire Us Air tree at that point.
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Yeah that sucks and i understand your pain… I would unironically do the same with the mig29m because i love that plane even though i also have the entire soviet tree researched…
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My biggest fear for that is the Su-37.
That one is my favourite Soviet/Russian jet and if somehow ended up bein premium i might have to buy it, even tho i already have entire tree like you.
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