Is this really a concern? Was the Horton not tested? Oh wait, no, it wasn’t.
Well can’t argue against that.
It was also the discussion over the R-27EA, also not put into service or sufficiently tested.
Sure! But this is a COMPRESSION issue and not a BALANCE issue. As in, both aircraft fit at 13.0 currently…
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Not in War Thunder, no. They haven’t modeled it accurately enough to say this. The R-27EA could be added today and it wouldn’t be overpowered, just strong.
Ik, that’s why imo su-27 should only go to 13.3 IF they move the fancy stuff up (efts, rafales, strike eagle etc), ideally if we got something like 15.0-15.7 max top tier br it could get an even higher BR so other early 4th gen could also get a br raise to improve conditions for phantoms/mig23s/miragef1, but that’s just fantasy unfortunately.
No, everything at 13.0 that is close to Su-27 performance would ALSO go up. MiG-29G would be one of the FEW, repeat, FEW 13.0 jets that would remain 13.0
I honestly can’t think of any other jet that would go up besides the su-33 and kfir c10, perhaps also early gripen but idk
Absolutely, maybe this year if we get lucky. MiG-29M would make a lot of sense to come in an update or two, it’s an amazing aircraft, also the K variant
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Mig 35 I believe has redesigned vertical stabilizers 9 hardpoints and better engines it would be pretty cool to see
Then I don’t think you’re very knowledgable on the subject
Su-27 isn’
Any fox3 carrier, straight up, exceptions given to only and maybe J-8F and Sea Harrier FA.2 (not AV-8B+)
F-15 would also go up, it is not acceptable that this faces 12.0 jets.
Etc
The only jets that would stay are MiG-29G, Sea Harrier FA.2, and the IR only gen4s (Gripen A/F-16 for Belgium etc)
I mean i don’t consider myself an excelent player but imo i have enough experience in top tier with both the US and soviet tree to tell which planes are a pain in the a** to face, but which aircraft do you think it would go up?
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At 13.0 i think those are the only fox3 carriers besides kfir c10, the busted viggen and f4f (i don’t remember well since i’ve not been playing wt regularly since a long time), but they getting a higher br would also be super ok…
MiG-29G > F-15A in air rb because of r27er, sparrows are crap.
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Full list of ARH carriers at 13.0:
F-14A IRIAF
F-14B
AV-8B+
F-4F KWS
Tornado F.3 Late
Sea Harrier FA.2
J-8F
AV-8B+ (Italy)
Ja37DI
Kfir C10
Yeah, nah. Though I’d agree with just uptiering the MiG-29G along with it lmao
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I shouldn’t have commented this cuz it wasn’t even the subject (su-27):
The AIM-120C-5 is not in War Thunder, you don’t know for certain what you’re saying.
?? The R-77 is already modeled in game and is far worse than the AIM-120A. The R-77-1 was shown on the dev server as being just a slightly better R-77, as was to be expected… aka… still not on the level of 120A.
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Aim-120 is worse at straight line (afk targets), but better at notching targets (cause less drag)
which mig 29 gets the yellow and black skin