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I said it should be 11.3, not 12.0.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
The F-4E is 11.3, and the Mig21bis should be the same BR.
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The Mig-29A is decent at 12.7, I can’t imagine the 29G not being op at the exact same BR. Should something like that be facing Mig-23s?
That’s the same BR as the F-16As, and only 0.3 higher than a Mig-21 with a vastly inferior loadout.
What we do need is decompression, instead of recompression.
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If they move the mig29g down, they should also give the 9.12a and 9.13 r73 as well, just my opinion though. I agree decompression is the answer but also the f16a could easily go down to 12.3 with its current kit if they fix the over performing fm.
Yup i agree, su-27 and su-33 are clearly superior and should get their BRs raised to 13.3, 13.0 is a bad spot for the G now Because of the 14.0 monsters but in 12.7 it would torment more poor 3rd gen aircraft, which would be worse imo.
Unfortunately mig29G will suffer until a major decompression happens, which tbh i don’t think it’ll take that long considering How the eurocanards are wiping out top tier
To rival the F-16 in characteristics and be cheap. That’s the point of the Mig-29.
The MiG-21 has 0 BVR capability and its missiles are the most flare hungry ingame - anything slightly reliable is rear aspect only and has incredibly short range (R13)
Meanwhile im pretty shure the F4E gets sparrows with a PD seeker - correct me if im mistaken
ofc it will crush in a full downtier - so will most jets
The F15A shreds the BRs below it too - but id say its decently balanced cause it can hold up to other stuff at 13.0
The MiG-29G at 13.0 ist the same BR as the SU-27 (Which has just better capability in general), the F15A and the Gripen - all of them Mog it in a fair fight.
You cant go and say “in a downtier it would be OP” - cause most planes ingame are good in a downtier.
Instead look at the BR its sitting at - or the shit below it.
The F14A with Fakours is arguably better than the MiG-29G in BVR and dogfighting - the only edge the 29 has is the R73
It’s total trash tho, i unironically prefer the r-60ms over f4e bvr loadout xD
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F4e at 11.3/10.7 doesn’t get a pd radar, the ones at 12.3/12.0 do though.
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F-4E radar is not pulse doppler and neither are the ordnance seekers monopulse. The F-4E in any low altitude situation is just as “BVR-less” and the ordnance is hardly “BVR capable” to begin with, they’re AIM-7E’s. I’d put them slightly ahead of the R-3R’s for usage.
The R-60M is all aspect and 30G, the F-4E has no all aspect ordnance and what it does have maxes out at 20G’s. To use it, you somehow need to find yourself behind a more agile enemy who is unaware of the hottest, loudest, and largest thing in the sky at its’ BR that can be considered a fighter.
The missiles are aim 7e2 - a lot better than the standard aim 7e. And even in low altitude, sub 100ish, if you are below the enemy, you can still lock them using manual radar tilt
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Purposefully lying is crazy.
the Aim-7E-2 does have a PD seekerhead.
The MiG-21s radar is horrible - abysmal even .
And comparing an aim-7, a 25G missile to the R3R, a 10G missile which is dogeable by maneuvering is absolute copium and insanity.
it gets aim-7s - which are useable front aspect with a radar lock
The MiG-21s and phantoms should be roughly equal in a dogfight - it highly depends on pilot skill
I didnt even cover all the other advantages the Phantoms have over the MiGs - like a good RWR and decent Radar
(idc if you think the phantoms have a worse radar than the fishbeds - they just dont, its that shrimple)
It has tons more situational awareness and can additionally affect the course of tickets much more easily by carrying ground ordinance
Its overall an equal - or better airframe depending on the department you look at
And the only reason why it should be a higher BR is because it has a missile that is so easy to flare that literally 1 pop will work in 99% of the use cases?
ffs the R60Ms range rear aspect is like 2km max
We need a MiG-29M as soon as possible
Now that we have stuff like the Eurofighter and Rafale already it is a shame how the fulcrums have been completly forgotten by gaijin.
The capability is equal in weaponry - and much worse in flight performance to what we have now
Give us the 29M now gaijin
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11.3 isn’t in BVR range.
You underestimate medium range R-27ERs.
The 21MF/SMT maybe, but not the 21bis.
The Mig-29G can’t come down, but we need everything around and above it to go up in BR. The 29 (9-12A) is fine at 12.7, but it does suffer in uptiers.
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Imo 29K (9-41R) or 29KUB would be better. You get a better MiG-29 and also top out the naval line. Also, if it ever comes to it, 29SMT could continue to maintain the status of top MiG-29 (purely because it still got space for improvements, like R-77-1)
29-M would still be better performance wise, with a good radar still
The first AIM-7 with a monopulse seeker was the AIM-7M first introduced in 1982 iirc.
At high altitude neither are dodge-able and the R-3R is less expected to be fired in a head-on generally, performs better on the lower end MiG-21s.
Except the K would have significantly less CMs AFAIK, which might be kinda sucky