Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

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I know @skilz2kil started to do test on energy retention of the plane and it seems to underperforms according to the charts he gave us, i unfortunately can’t really test/ do the testing for a bug report, if anyone is willing to see if the MiG-29 is truly underperforming in these areas, it could be amazing.

It also seems the instructor lets you pull less AoA at low speed than a plane like the F-15.

Again I think @BBCRF, @MiG_23M or @Giovanex05
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are way more competent than I am for this topic.

Here is the image from @skilz2kil

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5605

Iırc 29M suppose to have L-150.

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it may depends on which prototype, there were 6 of them. I will search about that rwr

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I quoted exact part of message mentioning only SMT, idk what RWR 29M had if you mean 9-15, never investigated

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Prototype 155 and 156 suppose to have better RWR, suggestion page was mentioning this.

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9-15 could be an amazing addition to be fair, so could be the 9-31, despite being heavier.

I don’t dislike the SMT, but it feels like the 9.12/9.13 already struggles a lot with energy retention (which seems a bit weird, but I lack the sufficient knowledge to accurately say if it is underperforming) and a weird instructor at low speed.

I hope that we can all work together for a better 29, and hopefully a better 27 ( in the other thread ofc)

I kinda feel bad when it comes to Russian planes and their FM, hopefully we can change the tendency a bit.

I just want accurate planes, if they’re inferior to the UFO we can have in game, I want my plane to feel like one xD

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Yeah 9.15 would be great, i really want to see MiG-29 with advanced missiles and good flight performance

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Afaik, MiG-29 shouldn’t be as terrible as it can be in game right now, I know it match the charts, mostly except for energy retention it seems.

Fixing the FM first, will also help get an accurate MiG-29M. Otherwise we may end up with a plane that has the same underlying issue as the 9.12/9.13/9.19

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The 29m suggestion reached 300 votes, i’m optimistic :)

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I know, i was one of the first person who voted yes.

That plane should’ve been added together with F-16C, sadly Gaijin took a bad path.

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Yup, it’s the perfect counterpart. SMT is from 2006 If i’m not mistaken, irl It carries r74s and late r77s, I was Very surprised when they added it.

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i hope they will made this aircraft good enough to have fun and can counpart with US

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Tag me again tomorrow I will take a look.

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Mig-29M 9-15 154

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Introduction date isnt improtant tbh considering Swedish JAS39C carries IRIS-T Aim-120C7/Meteor missiles in real life.

Whats important is we need proper planes that can counter each other effectively.

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5619

True

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What happened to that MiG-29? It was rebuilt as M2 or what? If i remember all 9.15 were single seat

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There were multiple prototypes, that’s the 154

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http://mig.mariwoj.pl/mig-29-9-15.htm

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6 prototype of 9.15 but i have never seen that one before

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