Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Reread what I said

I have not idea what the parameters are.

What’s the speed and altitude? Fuel state? AB engaged? Airbrake?

Pick a turning speed and weight that both can match. Maintain the same altitude and speed in a flat turn for both.

Keep localhost up and on screen, you can fine tune the weights with the dev commands.
http://localhost:8111/editor/fm_commands.html

Keep as many variables 1:1 for the rest such as ordnance, engine mode, etc.

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I do need to DL this. ty.

Except I do not want to manipulate model weights with Dev commands. I want to keep models completely untouched by 3rd party software.

I just want to monitor performances.

I do not understand why its so hard to record your test using third party software. If they are truly legitimate there should be no reason not to record and place them before the community for scrutiny.

It’s not third party software. It’s Gaijins internal menu to directly edit the fuel weights.

You don’t need to. The link isn’t third party software. It’s permissible in reports.

I was confused with something else that is not permissible.

I mean to prove the validity of your test a recording will help instead of just saying “nope, I tested”

ok then, but the Iink is bunk for me.

Oh I did not see this. Um true, but why should we have to when we do not have to do so with any other fighters at top tier and lower. Especially the only one that is classified as supermaneuverable?

Go into the custom and then load the link.

Most fighters don’t need to. Put in a suggestion

Will do. Thanks.

I know its crazy huh?

Working on it.

Wait a minute. HOLD UP.
So the F-16C & D is not overperforming @MiG_23M and NOT a UFO?
Quote: “The F-16C is NOT overperforming by any means”?

Can I get your official comment on that?

But the SMT is not underperforming, neither is the Fulcrum series?

So, it’s just an inferior aircraft of the Russian Federation, is that it?

Genuinely asking.

Sounds like a question for the F-16 thread
Although going back 800 comments to misquote someone who was likely just referring to the sustained turn rates is odd.

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Where is the misquote? Go direct to the comment. 800 comments ago is irrelevant it was made less than 15 days ago. lol

Also, a question for the F16 thread really?

This sounds like you agree the Mig29 is underperforming?

Well maybe this comment refreshes your memory…

What changed your position Miggy? Was it because I came on board and agree it is?

Thats not really scientific or unbiased of you, Professor Datamine.

Wondering what you get from baiting my replies at this point.

We are just trying to figure out what your position is since you flip flop more than a fish out of water.

Who is the one now trying to pull conversation away that the Mig29 and SMT are underperforming?

It’s you, bud. Just you.

Which part of this statement do you agree with and disagree with? I am sorry, you might have to bump heads with Gio.

It’s all in the name of “sterile testing” and “unbiased position”, right?

Professor Datamine?

Really?

Dr. Tangible you are all over the place you know that?

Agreed

Agreed

Agreed

Really?

Do you agree with Staff’s position now all of a sudden? I honestly do not agree and it seemed like you did not either. What changed? Genuinely asking.

There are no any evidence that mig-29s below mig-29M can achieve unstable configuration enough for “cobra”. It can now achieve ~60 deg around 350-450km/h like early fm did.

Stable MiG-29s just can’t perform cobra and resolve unstable configuration because it has no FBW-like systems

You and I know supermaneuvrability “dynamic attainment” is not about instability or losing control of an aircraft. The aircraft can obtain angles of attack beyond maximum lift that is not achieved with conventional aerodynamic technique. Why are you no longer going against the grain and falling in line with the Mig29 is perfect idea?

All of this drama makes me think How incorrect 4+ and 5th gen aircraft will be when they come and How long it’ll take till they fix them, lol. It has been 1 year since Apex Predators and look at the state of the same vehicles that came in that update, absolute shameful

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Well it should be easy because by then we would have gotten the supermaneuvrability question answered and modelling established. Even the issues with instructor resolved.

We are all learning as we go. Even the staff. No one is perfect and knows 100% about this crap. Can you imagine who much the community will know when the 5th generation comes along? The community has come SOOO far from when the F4C came to the game in understanding radar and missile technology.

It is important we debate these flaws now. The Mig29 is the predecessor to dynamic attainment in WT. It is a highly grey technical area that requires second thoughts constantly. Until we can get it fully established or as a community agree, “its real enough.”

Cherry picking quotes before and after our bug reports fixed the MiG-29 is just a goofy way of showing everyone how much of a farce you’re presenting.

So what was fixed Dr. Tangible? Because no where you seem satisfied. Only when I came aboard and agreed that all of a sudden, the model is PERFECT.

I’m honestly dubious If they actually can’t solve these issues right now, something feels really strange to me.

Those f4 sales…

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