Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

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You can support addition of 9-19R modification for 9-19 on ru forum by pressing “За” if you want

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This one is wrong, at least for F-16A Block 10s. Block 10s stall speed is the most accurate it’s been since release, and it was horribly inaccurate until this last major update.

Mig-29s having incorrect fuel consumption [too fast], incorrect AOA pull, and incorrect general flight models currently doesn’t mean the F-16s are over-performing at low speeds.

Posting this in my post for future me:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YUEVxqaLf1xw

I didn’t mention anything about the F-16’s overperforming at low speeds. They are though, the aircraft is incapable of handling 45+ degrees AoA with high roll rates or asymmetrical loads like it can in-game.

im just impressed with this, thanks for the work man.

I did some duels today with the smt against the f16adf, it literally feels like you are flying with the air brakes 50% open and if you keep trying to stay in the fight, the longer it lasts the worse it gets, you start falling out of the sky at some point and it was difficult to rate fight too or keep enough energy to point my noose, I couldnt gain speed fast enough (it must be because of the extra weight of the SMT, I think) or something also related to the new drag changes, I should have also tested with the 9.13 but I couldn’t today but anyway, i’m glad we have someone like you who is trying to fix the mig29s

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YEP, the plane literally cannot keep speed and starts falling out of the SKY

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Thank you, I just stumbled upon the Russian speaking side of the forums and there was a lengthy discussion on whether the seeker had IR or thermal capability, and seems like it was a feature it didn’t have for the Kh-29TD… but it seems like a new can of worms was opened in the discussion wherein the SMT would be targeting pod capable

Quite interesting discussion, I would like to know if the Mig-29SMT could mount a targeting in War Thunder, it would be quite nice, even if it could only carry limited air to ground ordinance.

S/SE installation was available for 9.12 and 9.13 airframes

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1… MiG-29(9-12B) were delivered from Russia to Bangladesh in 1999…
2. In 2009 at LGARZ (Lviv) they have been upgraded to a level close to or the same as the MiG-29MU1…
Украина модернизирует истребители МиГ-29 ВВС Бангладеш - Украина промышленная (ukraineindustrial.info)
3.Since 2019, they are being upgraded on 558-ARZ (Baranovichi. Belarus)-according to the MiG-29BM project (9-11)… «Сравнимы с российскими МиГ-29СМТ»: Бангладеш сделал выбор в пользу белорусского варианта истребителя (topwar.ru)
Бангладешские МиГ-29 в Белоруссии: dambiev — ЖЖ (livejournal.com)
The project as of 2005…now 2023-Electronics/ Electronic warfare/Radar-most likely have been significantly modified… БЕЛОРУССКИЙ МОДЕРНИЗИРОВАННЫЙ . Взлёт 2005 10 (wikireading.ru)

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Specifications of current modification from Belarus.

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Dorsal hump found in MiG 29 BM is missing on the upgraded Bangladeshi ones.I think they have only added a new radar and new suspended armaments from the BM version. So I think it is still a MiG 29B but with electronics and armaments from the BM.

1.It is impossible to convert 9-12, for example, into 9-13 without the capabilities of a serial factory…From the very beginning, the Belarusian ones were altered from 9-13 …
2.It’s for sure that the Bangladeshi ones are 9-12 … but the letter designation should change when replacing the radar…
3. Therefore, it’s better to find out the designation in the Bangladesh Air Force-from local comrades…

Looks like they haven’t changed the designation.

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If we ever get 9-12B in game,are we going to get R-77 for it?Since Bangladeshi one is still designated as MiG-29B.

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What a strange question. If we will have Bangladeshi modernized 9-12B, maybe, who knows, for original 9-12B no, why would gaijin give it R-77.

Well that is true.Sorry for asking dumb questions.


I assume this is the reason why mig 29 has such awful drag, right ??

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The FM changes prior to that were the primary issue. This made it worse.

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Some news regarding the repair of the MiG-29 flight model? It’s currently working really badly. It has even worse energy retention than the MiG-21 and it is less agile than F-4E (possible some exaggeration but the point is clear).

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Why did they even make these FM changes, was it a Rogue Coder or something? Did someone make some sourceless BS bug report and gaijin just said yeah we destroy it’s FM now?

I am having a very hard time understanding the reasoning behind it , especially the fact that it happened at the same time with the UFO F-16 FM buffs

They implemented a new system for RateMax and LoadFactorMax to a bunch of aircraft including F-16s, deltas, Mirage 2000, etc.

When they did this, it broke the MiG-29 (although I think the MiG-29 was already underperforming still at that point).
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398367636213334018/1155267697634988032/image.png

Beyond this, they’ve nerfed the efficiency of the flaps, the drag and lift in high AoA or spin conditions, etc. They’ve made the aircraft really unstable and unrealistically bad at nose pointing conditions. Any kind of AoA above the normal 14-24 degree limit results in excessive loss of airspeed and comically large instability.

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