yada yada
Aircraft cant be buffed cause we would have to actually redo the flight model cause we messed up so badly in the past.
Thats the only info im getting out of this
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I am 99% shure the MiG-35 would be able to switch the UV-26 pods (32x 60mm) with the smaller UV-5 Pods (64x 26mm)
I dont think its actually done in the russian airforce (cause the MiG35 mostly relies on DIRCM and Jammers, not Flares/Chaff) but it seems unlikely to me that the MiG-29SMT - an older airframe - would be able to use both UV-5 and UV-26 interchangebly while the MiG-35 only uses UV26
Ive read on a few articles that it trades those countermeasures for a 360° DIRCM system using LS3705EO-type turrets to disable IR seekers (even IIR seekers)
One of them seems to be this little ball behind the canopy (it is only present on a few MiG35s wich lets me assume its either the DIRCM or the MAWS)
If someone could confirm that, that would be neat
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After a long (not really) comparison, we’ve come to the conclusion that the MiG-29 is one of the worst jet fighters ever created. I don’t understand why it became so popular in mainstream culture—Soviet pseudo-aesthetics? (Though the Su-27 is far more beautiful.) Or maybe just because it was made behind the “Iron Curtain”? It’s beyond me.
As someone from the CIS, I could’ve been lenient toward it, but no—this plane has awful avionics, and the very idea of a frontline fighter by the late '70s was already outdated and downright embarrassing. It’s not heavy like the Su-27, nor light like the JAS 39 it has no real place on the modern battlefield.
I hope this Soviet-era junk dies out as an aircraft, just like the useless cultural phenomenon it is.
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Looks cool so I like
that is not true the germans (after the reunification) have been speaking highly of it
with it being able to hold its own in a dogfight against almost everything at the time
Would probably call the mig 29 one of the biggest what if? Planes, could have been so much but killed off by fall of the USSR and economic struggle of the Russian Federation for so many years. They had relocate the limited funding to other more important projects.
I’d imagine if the USSR never collapsed the MiG-29 would have taken a similar role of the F-16 serves here in the west
Good amount of countries did say it was a worthy opponent. The IAF (Israeli Air Force, not Indian) said it on their own site about the time when they leased some and were impressed with it’s performance
To say it’s one of the worst jet fighters is just misinformation and straight up wrong
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i think part of the reason why they didnt do anything with it is, that they had the Su-27 which was able to do everything the Mig-29 was able to do but a bit better
it had DL, a bigger combat radius and was able to carry more weapons
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F-16 would still be more logistically friendly, there is a good reason why there aren’t many MiG operators left
Yeah, with the F-16 and F-15 combination the F-16 had much lower costs being a single engine fighter but I doubt there is a huge cost difference with the MiG and Su-27
because most of them werent on friendly terms with russia after the collapse of the soviet union
so they were unable to get spare parts for maintanence
Yeah that’s what I thought to, if they had the funding they probably would have continued development of both but su 27 was seen as a higher priority to develop
That would be the MiG-23, garbage combat record
MiG-29 isn’t that far off though it hardly had a good record
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price of the Su-27 is estimated to be ~40 million USD
the price of the Mig-29 is estimated to be ~20 million USD
i would say the Su-27 costing double is a meaningful price difference (with infaltion)
What about maintenance and cost per hour
Well
For price of 2 flankers you can take single F-35… sounds expensive
the website i found says that it is ~11.000 USD per flight hour for both
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This is what I mean, although the unit cost is different in wartime situation they will cost about the same to keep going while being overall worse
ok I wanna keep it short (it`ll probablly be still a textwall)
Its popular in mainstream culture because its the 2nd most produced 4th gen jet in the world (shortly behind the F16)
And sorry, but you dont really seem to understand any history and intended purpose of the MiG-29 at all - wich makes sense when considering you jsut said this:
The MiG-29 was the cheap export “variant” of the SU-27 sold to the Soviets puppet states.
As someone who spoken to old GDR generals and even 1 pilot the design of the Fulcrum makes total sense.
This plane was never meant to dominate the skies - let alone achieve air superiority.
It was a cheap and easy to produce aircraft that countries like the GDR loved because they could:
-take off from EVERYWHERE
-Land literally EVERYWHERE
-Be used effectively at short ranges to intercept CAS (thanks to incredible climb rate and fast startup times)
-Be insanely reliable thanks to the Analog-Digital Hybrid control system
The Eastern block really didnt prioritize air superiority - they essentially would be a buffer zone in case of war.
A former GDR pilot even told me that they trained to not even engage enemy fighters in BVR - but retreat instead.
Their only mission was to get the skies as clear of CAS as possible - air superiority wasnt a goal for their Doctrine.
So yes - in the modern battlefield this 1970 conceptionalized jet for the Warsaw pact countries wouldnt hold up at all.
The MiG-29s main clutch was the R73 wich was by far the most advanced and effective A2A IR missile at the time - ofc it suffers in Warthunder if gaijin gives it a missile that it never used instead
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