Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:20pm

Only if upgraded with N019M or greater radars! Yesir!

No NATO countries (yet)

Miraz05 · May 23, 2024, 5:21pm

But why R-27ER isn’t widely used? If all MiG29s can carry them everyone would have only bought R-27ER instead of R-27R

MiG_23M · May 23, 2024, 5:22pm

Your argument isn’t logical. The N019 can guide the R-27R it can certainly guide the R-27R + more booster. The problem is not guidance it would be software for the fire control system but you haven’t provided any semblance of proof it couldn’t. I’d like to remind you that the burden of proof is still on you.

Miraz05 · May 23, 2024, 5:22pm

You can probably count Ukraine

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:22pm

YUP! Even you Ukraine has R-27ER factories!

Because only Russia can develop the Radars to guide them!!!

Bingo!!

_Fantom2451 · May 23, 2024, 5:22pm

No, they don’t. Only 9-13 and MiG-29MU1/2.

MiG_23M · May 23, 2024, 5:23pm

This

That, and practically no MiG-29s still in service in 1990 would be equipped with the original N019, or if they were would be hard pressed to purchase a missile that just entered production and was still in limited numbers with the dying Soviet Union.

_Fantom2451 · May 23, 2024, 5:30pm

N019M(E) main point is abilitty to use RVV-AE

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:30pm

Bet! HAHAH

Ukraine - Air Force
MiG-29S (9-13S)

Reg.: 01 white
Code: 01

Location: Wilkes-Barre / Scranton - International (AVP / KAVP)
Pennsylvania, USA - July 11, 1992

Ukraine - Air Force
Reg: 01 white

Location: Trenton (YTR / CYTR)
Ontario, Canada - June 27, 1992

Reg: 01 white

Ukraine - Air Force
MiG-29S (9-13S)
Reg: 01 white

MSN: 2960731232

Anymore question!?!!!

MekboyVN_068 · May 23, 2024, 5:31pm

Is this statement below correct guys ? Found it on a forum of Mig-Stuff but i need to make sure.

"The only different of 9-13S and 9-13 is the ability to use R-77 through N-019 9-13S radar since all of them use the same type of Radar or “equivilent” like they used for Vietnamese Su-27UBK and Chinese Su-27Sk (both of them uses N-001 radar), hardpoint for R-77 is AKU-170E. "

Theoritically, 9-12 should be able to use R-27ER with their own radar.

Spoiler

MiG-29A 9-12 with R-27R/ER

MiG_23M · May 23, 2024, 5:33pm

Yes as I’ve explained, a change in the booster section should not preclude the ability to use the ordnance from the N019 radar - which is what was used to qualify the seeker and missile platform in the first place.

Early testing of R-27ER was conducted with N019 radars.

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:38pm

Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal! Thats why the R-77 overshadows less dramatic upgrades like ECM was hardened and lesser missiles like the ER guide it. No 9-12 or 9-13 with a N019 Rubin guide the ER, sorry.

The fact remains, many sources from East & West outright state first & foremost, the N019M Topaz Radar was development because of an American Spy & and testing of the radar commenced the year the Phazotron’s Cheif Designer was going to trial for his crimes against the Soviet Union & his countrymen.

Sorry, Facts do not care about how you feel. History does not either.

You really do not know much about your Mig history either, you never knew 9-13S were left to Ukraine in the Dissolution? I got more airframes with their manufacturer serial numbers if you care to see?

Have a nice day.

MiG_23M · May 23, 2024, 5:39pm

There is no need to be spiteful, please address the question… What did they modify on the R-27ER so that N019 could no longer guide the same seeker?

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:40pm

Already explained just read.

MiG_23M · May 23, 2024, 5:41pm

The R-27R and ER share everything but the motor section … so I ask again… what changed? The radars can change that’s fine… what is different between R and ER that precludes guidance of the ER from the earlier radar?

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:43pm

Explained just read.

Yeah! Adolf Tolkachev admitted to the KGB that he gave the Americans everything on it, the Radar & the R27 the same year the ER was in testing.

You think they were dumb enough to move forward all honky dory, sunshine & Rainbows? Still deploy the ER in 1990 with no alterations in its guidance whatsoever across the multiple main channel X-band frequencies that guide it?

lol. Oh, boy do I got a bridge to sell you.

BBCRF · May 23, 2024, 5:44pm

No

BBCRF · May 23, 2024, 5:46pm

Ukraine never never.I didn’t have it at 9-13C

_Fantom2451 · May 23, 2024, 5:48pm

Do you know people on internet are very often wrong? 9-13S tests ended only nearly right before USSR fall.

Ziggy1989 · May 23, 2024, 5:50pm

Production of the N019M was in full swing 1991. The collapse of the Soviet Union took place December 1991.

The Mig29S (9-13S) is the last fighter ever produced & upgraded by the Soviet Union.

Do you people not know history?

Ziggy1989:

The N019M Topaz is an updated version, developed as a response to the compromise of the N019 radar by a US spy. Tested from 1986, it entered limited production in 1991. Slightly lighter than the N019 at 350kg. Topaz has increased ECM resistance, new software, and a more advanced built-in monitoring system. A new Ts101M computer eliminates the processor overload problems of the N019, more than doubling capacity to 400,000 operations per second whilst weighing less, just 19kg, and with doubled MTBF of 1000h compared to the 500h of the Ts100. N019M allows two targets to be engaged by active radar homing missiles simultaneously. Range increased slightly to 80km. Originally intended to be fitted to the existing MiG-29 fleet as an upgrade, about 22 aircraft with N019M are thought to have entered service with the VVS.
N019 Radar | MiG Alley Military Aviation News

You are not going to outdo me on the Soviet Mig29 timeline or Soviet aviation history in general. So do not even try it.

Hope you are having a nice day though.