I can show quite easily that the N019 provides guidance for the exact same components as the R-27ER. The only difference is that it equips a larger rocket motor.
Aka you’re wrong and won’t admit it.
Scouring hundreds of non primary sources looking for some error in semantics is not definitive proof of what you’re saying. What did they change on the R-27ER that prevents its guidance from N019? Let’s start with that.
As of right now the claim is that the R-27ER differs somehow from the R-27R and therefore cannot be guided from the original N019. There were no changes to the seeker, so what happened?
You cannot show me the only difference is the motor because you cannot find a single Mig-29 in the entire world that still has N019 Rubin radar equipped with R-27ERs!
You cannot even answer the question & refuse to.
Why would the Soviets & Russians Federation ever be dumb enough to allow the R-27ER to be guided entirely by a radar & same guidance frequency of the R-27R that was already compromised by the US & Phazotron’s Chief Designer admitted to doing at trial in June, 1986?
Why would even today, would the Russian Federation ever allow the missile that was deployed in 1990 & still sold to its allies be guided by the same frequencies & old radar that NATO knows all about & literally OWNS?
When they already developed an uncorrupted version, N019M Topaz & also offer it directly & exclusively to their allies? The only version of the N019 that is proven to guide the R-27ER
I just prove it in my research & I literally just did with the Serbian Mig-29SM+
Stop this crying & comeback when you have proof the N019 Rubin can guide R27ERs.
Because as of right now (forever) only Mig-29s that received the N019M or greater can guide ERs.
Your argument isn’t logical. The N019 can guide the R-27R it can certainly guide the R-27R + more booster. The problem is not guidance it would be software for the fire control system but you haven’t provided any semblance of proof it couldn’t. I’d like to remind you that the burden of proof is still on you.
That, and practically no MiG-29s still in service in 1990 would be equipped with the original N019, or if they were would be hard pressed to purchase a missile that just entered production and was still in limited numbers with the dying Soviet Union.
Is this statement below correct guys ? Found it on a forum of Mig-Stuff but i need to make sure.
"The only different of 9-13S and 9-13 is the ability to use R-77 through N-019 9-13S radar since all of them use the same type of Radar or “equivilent” like they used for Vietnamese Su-27UBK and Chinese Su-27Sk (both of them uses N-001 radar), hardpoint for R-77 is AKU-170E. "
Theoritically, 9-12 should be able to use R-27ER with their own radar.
Yes as I’ve explained, a change in the booster section should not preclude the ability to use the ordnance from the N019 radar - which is what was used to qualify the seeker and missile platform in the first place.
Early testing of R-27ER was conducted with N019 radars.
Yeah, it’s a pretty big deal! Thats why the R-77 overshadows less dramatic upgrades like ECM was hardened and lesser missiles like the ER guide it. No 9-12 or 9-13 with a N019 Rubin guide the ER, sorry.
The fact remains, many sources from East & West outright state first & foremost, the N019M Topaz Radar was development because of an American Spy & and testing of the radar commenced the year the Phazotron’s Cheif Designer was going to trial for his crimes against the Soviet Union & his countrymen.
Sorry, Facts do not care about how you feel. History does not either.
You really do not know much about your Mig history either, you never knew 9-13S were left to Ukraine in the Dissolution? I got more airframes with their manufacturer serial numbers if you care to see?
