Yeah i do the same thing with flankers, u only need like 25-29 mins of fuel depending on the variant to last the entire match in rb - they pretty fuel efficient and by the time u get into real combat u already down to 20mins or less which is where u want to be with them for good performance. I also just take 30mins in sim and simply dont afterburn absolutely everywhere
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25% larger wings > couple dogteeth
It’s not just dogteeth. Elevators have bigger surface area, wing is also has bigger surface area when slats become active due to bigger slats. Wing loading numbers probably don’t even take this into consideration
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MiG-35 will fix everything with its larger wing, krueger flaps on the LERX, slightly tweaked horizontal stabilizer and more powerful engines trust me
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Krueger flaps only deploy during landing and take off iirc. And naval wing has lower G limit. And, most important of all - it is MiG-29, you will get Fulcrum tax and it will be worse than Su-34
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Expanded list over all MiG-29M/K/35 variants with basic info:
MiG-29M izdeliye 9-15
Spoiler
- 80s/90s overhaul of the Fulcrum platform
- 6 prototypes built, bort 151-156
Basic Specification:
- N010 Zhuk
- OLS-M IRST
- L-150 RWR
- RD-33K
MiG-29M2 154 izdeliye 9-15
Spoiler
- 4th prototype of the 9-15 bort 154 converted in to a two seater in the early 2000s first for Malaysia’s MRCA
- Received new avionics upgrade over the older 9-15 including replacing the N010 with the N010M and converted to MIL-STD-1553B data bus
Basic Specification:
- N010M Zhuk-M
- OLS-U IRST
- L-150 RWR
- RD-33K
MiG-35D 154 izdeliye 9-15D
Spoiler
- 4th prototype of the 9-15 bort 154 converted from the MiG-29M2 in to the MiG-35 in 2007
intended as an tech demonstrator for the MiG-35 platform for India and its MMRCA. - Received new FGA-29 Zhuk-AE AESA radar
- Received new IRST systems with the special OLS-K for targeting ground targets, and was the only MiG equipped with it.
- Upgraded with the RD-33MK
Basic Specification:
- FGA-29 Zhuk-AE
- OLS-UEM IRST + OLS-K IRST
- L-150 RWR
- SOAR MAW
- SOLO LWS
- RD-33MK
MiG-29 OVT 156 izdeliye 9-15
MiG-29K izdeliye 9-31
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- Carrier variant of the 9-15
- Upgraded with folding wing mechanism, carrier hook and undercarriage reinforcements
- 2 prototypes built bort 311 and 312
- Special version of the RD-33k that could be up rated to 9400 kgf for take off on carriers
Basic Specification:
- N010 Zhuk
- OLS-M IRST
- L-150 RWR
- RD-33K with an special high power mode
MiG-29K/KUB izdeliye 9-41/47
Spoiler
- 2000s revival of the carrier based MiG-29 for the Indian navy
- first variant of the 4+ generation or 2000s era MiGs
- 3 prototypes and 45 serial production variants built
- equipped with domestic Tarang RWR
Basic Specification:
- N010ME Zhuk-ME
- OLS-UE
- Tarang RWR
- RD-33MK
MiG-29KR/KUBR izdeliye 9-41R/47R
Spoiler
- Russian VMF variant of the MiG-29K/KUB
- swapped out Indian modifications for domestic avionics
- 24 units built
Basic Specification:
- N010M/N041R Zhuk-M
- OLS-U
- L-150 RWR
- RD-33MK
MiG-29M/M2 izdeliye 9-41S/47S
Spoiler
- Land based conversion of the MiG-29K with removal off all carrier reinforcements, carrier hook and folding wing mechanism.
- Initially believed Syria was supposed to be the launch customer for the 9.41S /47S MiG-29M/M2
- Contract would never be fulfilled due to the outbreak of the Syrian Civil war
- 2 Pre production units built bort 741 and 747, would never be delivered and is used by RSK as test beds and airshow units now
Basic Specification:
- N010M Zhuk-M
- OLS-U
- L-150 RWR
- SOAR MAW
- RD-33MK
MiG-29M/M2 izdeliye 9-41SM/47SM
Spoiler
- Modified version of the initial 9.41S/47S for Egypt and Algeria
- IFR probe installed
- Larger countermeasures set installed
- 64 units built (52 for Egypt and 14 for Algeria)
Basic Specification:
- N010ME Zhuk-ME
- OLS-UE
- L-150 RWR
- SOAR MAW
- RD-33MK
MiG-35/35D izdeliye 9-61/67
Spoiler
- 2 MiG-35s converted from 2 MiG-29K prototypes given bort 961 and 967
- Tested and flown by Indian Pilots for the MMRCA
- Both would be equipped with the FGA-29 Zhuk-AE AESA
- Both 961 and 967 would be converted back to MiG-29K/KUBs after the MiG-35 was eliminated from the MMRCA
Basic Specification:
- FGA-29 Zhuk-AE
- OLS-UEM IRST
- L-150 RWR
- SOAR MAW
- SOLO LWS
- RD-33MK
MiG-35S/UB izdeliye 9-41SR/47SR
Spoiler
- First MiG-35 variant operated by the Russian VKS
- Limited production with 9 units built in total
- VKS MiG-35s would be equipped with the N041R which is a slightly upgraded variant of the N010M, unlike many claims of PESA/AESA radars being installed
Basic Specification:
- N010M/N041R Zhuk-M
- OLS-UEM IRST
- L-150 RWR
- SOAR MAW
- RD-33MK
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is this data from the mig-29 flying through time book?
i dont have that book but i assume its mostly the same from the books i have, judging from the pictures saprano shared of the book in another thread
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I actually went and did it myself because I was curious. I assumed fuel consumption for 600 mph on afterburner, and requiring 2 minutes of afterburner time gives me these numbers.
Calculating for 2 minutes of burner time gives these masses:
This results in these turn rates:
TL:DR the MiG-29M is still arguably the worst FM at 13.7 which would look even worse if I included the negative SEP lines but that would clutter the charts too much. Color me completely unsurprised.
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Is the 29M model still ugly or did they improve it?
BRUH why grippen engine has so low consumption, what is bypass ratio?
rd133 not rd33mk
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Thanks for doing it. I was busy and couldn’t do it, but after looking at the results, they’re what I expected. A little boost to the FM would be appreciated, considering the poor FM compared to the competition and that they’re R77
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The engine is based off the F-18 engines, which iirc are pretty high bypass for a fighter engine. Plus it has the lowest thrust by far in this comparison.
The Gripen has a modification of the F404-GE-400 engine with many features shared with the GE-402 model in some F-18C’s. The engine was designed from the onset with some specific goals in mind, mainly efficiency and longevity but also the ability to be modified and installed in a variety of airframes.
TL;DR - They use a modification of a legendary American engine.
They are lower bypass ratio than most. The EJ200 for example is 0.4 bypass ratio iirc, the F404 is approx 0.34. The core flow of the Volvo modification was increased further, so the bypass air has little to do with it. The core flow is just really efficient for a turbofan. Combined design from Saab and General Electric.
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fyi, likely this is AI generated.
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clearly AI
here the exact same airframe, you can see the number on the side intake is not here, the nato logo behinde gears is a lot lighter than its suppose to be. and the quality of the image.
also this image might be based on this exact one
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us engines has specific meanings of longevity during the repair process, they can almost completely reassemble it
btw i was checked normal data from statshark and mig29 has 4.9 not 5.9 so it fit to higher overral pressure of f404
but btw grippen still paper shit, it has no pressure loss at high alpha with this shit air intake
it must be 0.1 - 0.3
Wonder if we can expect dev server updates before it closed?