Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

[MiG_23M]

There are select few moderators, they only need a nudge to know when rule breaking is happening. Unfortunately for us, most of the time it’s intentional. If you think the conversation is productive it’s all too easy to make a thread with just a title and the aim to discuss… It doesn’t need a long OP with the history.

I’m not going to make a new thread for y’all tho.
(Not off topic)

[MiG_23M]

@Giovanex05 @BBCRF
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Sfm5AWKu1dEJ

Gaijin has denied the sustained turn rate report for the MiG-29. Do y’all have anything to say about their response?

[J_ackal]

I’m noticing a pattern

[MaMoran20-psn]

@MythicPi

I assume advanced radar features such as NCTR will also be omitted from western radars for a while, and I’m almost certain its already being omitted from the F-16C. This is another feature that would be incredibly simple to implement (literally just make it so that radars with NCTR can ID the aircraft they have locked at range using the spotting mechanic) and would help bridge the gap in the current R-27ER BVR dominance, but isnt being implemented for “reasons”.

Not due for the reason you claim but bc NCTR was useless, unreliable and didn’t get used in combat IRL according to him

In fact in one of Cesar Rodriguez’s engagements, immediately after the maneuver kill I think, AWACS called bandit north of him. He had radar lock, he was locked by a Mig-29 on RWR, NCTR showed mig29 but IFF showed friendly(3/4 in the matrix) which is why he didn’t take sparrow shot. So he dove and beamed to break radar lock. The wingman had everything above and IFF negative(4/4) so he fired and got the sparrow kill.

Mode 1 and Mode 4 is related to IFF is in the environment if I remember.

[MaMoran20-psn]

@dragonflaine71

It would be wise to wait and see If we can get more info about the western radars, Just because the russians have these problems doesn’t mean that the West do but it’s not Impossible

The thing is that we have a considerable amount of info on 70s/80sWestern(US and UK to some extent) and 80s 90s soviet(Mig29 and su 27 which are quite detailed). So we can tell, its older planes like 21, F4(E variant only) where it gets vague.

[J_ackal]

So this is recognition based on RCS output?

[MiG_23M]

Moving this to the AIM-54 thread
(Not inappropriate, stop flag abuse)

[MaMoran20-psn]

JEM, but may include other techniques like you say RCS output, signal resolution/phase/azimuth etc. This is classified almost completely, but JEM is known to be. We’ll probably never know in our lifetimes.

[David_Bowie]

There will be minor adjustments. that answer has been too shortened.

[dragonflaine71]

nice

[dragonflaine71]

If we have all the correct info and if it really should be how ur saying then the vehicle must be fixed. However, i don’t think they’ll be touching these aspects soon because they still didn’t fix the f-16 flight-model even with all the proofs circling around the forums and the tests made by the community showing that the plane is gigaoverperforming in terms of maneuverability, there’s probably an interest behind it just like it is with the mig29 bvr capabilities currently being better than the western vehicles.

[dragonflaine71]

did you already make a report regarding that matter?

[Giovanex05]

@MiG_23M

@Giovanex05 @BBCRF
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Sfm5AWKu1dEJ

Gaijin has denied the sustained turn rate report for the MiG-29. Do y’all have anything to say about their response?

I don’t get that response… I know very well that MiG-29G manual and practical aerodynamics curves match very well since they are literally the same aircraft lol.
The problem here is that practical aerodynamics literally does not have any chart for sustained sea level turn (and in general does not have any STR chart for AoAs above 24 degrees).

Also no reference was said about whether the in game MiG-29 matches those curves

[Giovanex05]

@_David_Bowie

There will be minor adjustments. that answer has been too shortened.

That’s nice to hear (a minor adjustment for low speed is all the bug report was about).
The answer did feel a bit weird lol.

[Giovanex05]

@SlowHandClap

You continue to insist this, but I’ve not seen evidence of this.

Ironically your comments, as self designated thread-monitor, are being far more detrimental to any discussion than the “intentional derailment” you claim.

Since when are manpads related to the MiG-29?

[dragonflaine71]

Hope these fixes come soon, thank you for your service sir

[J_ackal]

We need a proper mandpads thread

[MiG_23M]

Just title it and say “open for discussion” in the OP.

[J_ackal]

Manpads general thread

Open for discussion

[dragonflaine71]

problem solved