Some export PDs have photos with SPO-15 antennas on air intakes, by gaijin rule “technical capability” is the only limiting factor. And Pvt_Wade did a report about MiG-25 using large caliber flares and not the ones that are currently in-game.
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if anything its likely to be nerfed, r40s consistently pull 30gs
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Name just 1 more vic that fights vs 10.0 and shoots long range sahr
Also 8km fox 2
Shoot while landing? Just lol, great advice
You are just saying numbers without any context to them. By this rate i can just say that AIM-7D has 45km launch range at 10.0 and call it a day. Same with 8km Fox-2s. You are taking the most favourable launch parameters because you are to salty to admit that you got outplayed by some random Foxbat in a game.
It is actually a great advice, if you can’t comprehend the fact that MiG-25 barely breaks Mach 1 at low altitude and can be chased down by pretty much anything and killed extremely easily - it is not my problem.
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8km is the number iv seen others say the fox 2 easily hits when mig25 is at speed. Lets say 6km…exact same point
Other fox 1s at this BR are meme missiles only.
Outplayed by fox bat equates to being shot at from space while.being highlighted by another enemy thats close. Literal monkey play.
Waiting for mig 25 to land is situational AF and isnt good advice at all. But hey thats all you got, say no more
And target altitude/maneuverability is not taken into consideration just as usual. Why being humble? I can hit an R-40R shot from 30km (against a bot at high altitude but we aren’t taking this into consideration aren’t we?), so MiG-25 is stupid broken being able to kill enemies from half of the map.
R-24R, AIM-7E-2, AIM-7F are a meme now? Ok.
Me when i don’t understand how to multipath/go cold/ bleed missiles out of energy.
it is NOT situational simply because MiG-25 has zero endurance. 4 missiles is all you have, no gun, no maneuverability. Every single MiG-25 either gonna die before running out of missiles or go and land.
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Which other jet has listed missiles at 11.0? Best are the 11.0 phantoms and they are also meme missiles.
Plz do elaborate how u multipath/ notch a missile you dont know thats coming or flare fox 2s from miles away without flares/ also dont know its coming.
When all uv got is kill.when landing theres not much more to add.
Try to justify the hawk at 11.3 and mig25 at 11.0… bet you cant in any way
By being aware of your surroundings. There are only a handful of RWRs that can’t detect specifically MiG-25.
They are in the same bracket as MiG-25.
I don’t have to, they are already at this br, and for some odd reason they aren’t spammed, maybe because they aren’t a game-breaking?
Hawk.is 11.3. Its not spammed as its shiz. Has no gun and goes mach 1
Mig25 spammed every game.as its cancer. Has no gun goes mach 3
What im asking for is justification to why the hawk while being worse in every way than mig25, yet is sitting 0.3 higher?
If hawk deserves 11.3. Than mig 25 should be 11.7. And then its a non issue as it faces jets that atleast have flares amd a working RWR.
Except it isn’t? Are you still living few weeks in the past?
Because it has an actual PD radar that doesn’t require spending half of your attention to work with? Because AIM-9L is way more universal than R-40TD and Hawk gets whole 6 of them? Because Hawk has multirole capabilities and is a designated strike aircraft, unlike MiG-25? Becaue Hawk has actually working RWR and not SPO-10? Should it probably be a bit lower than currently is? Probably, looking at other undertiered subsonics like A-10. But comparing a subsonic attacker to a supersonic interceptor in terms of balance is on another level of schizoposting honestly
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Both havs no guns, both around same BR which is rare so its a fair comparisson.
No its nothing like a10. Unlike the mig 25 it is easily countered. A10s have all aspect but still have to get in visual. They are slow AF. Even flareless i just take rockets. Overall pretty balanced.
The only counter to mig 25 is wait till it lands😂
But theres the truth and why the gane will remain unbalnced slop. The bombs/ ground attack is the reason. Same with kfir canard- the snails greed…
Why do you need gun in high altitude where fly only MiG-25 and rarely F-4? Everything what you need is R-40. Especially R-40TD is very dangerous and much better compared to AIM-9L. Its mainly because with R-40TD you can much easier manage to get moment of surprise thanks to range so less probability that it will be flared + as they are standardly launched from high altitude so it even more decrease probability that it will be spoted as nobody look up.
They rejected your report on a maximum 15G acceleration because it’s apparently for a different missile, yet didn’t bother to mention if they had their own documents proving it can pull 20 G or not. Honestly that isn’t too unbelievable considering the size of those fins and the speeds those missiles reach, but if the 30G R-60 is not recommended against targets with over 8 g acceleration, it makes perfect sense that with the same criteria a missile meant for targets under 4g would be unable to pull more than 15 Gs.
Regardles, after looking up the datamine, I suspect that the reason those missiles can pull 30+ Gs on occasion is because they forgot to specify “maximum fin lateral acceleration”, so right now the missile autopilot generically aims for 20 G but can overcontrol until it runs out of deflection angle.
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The MiG-25 was operated almost exclusively at extreme altitudes where pulling more than 4G was difficult, that’s something any R-40 documentation takes into consideration, so that’s why the suggested combat envelope for the missile is 4G. Keep that in mind.
meanwhile the devs when it’s about manpads:
the r40r and r40rd have the exact same aerodynamic surfaces
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The AIM-4F and AIM-4G were operated almost exclusively at extreme altitudes yet ingame pull wiith nearly 4 times less force than they could in real life, so i’m not buying that excuse. I get that a missile only fighter needs good missiles, and that ingame missiles don’t have to be 1 to 1 recreations of the real thing, but at least they should be modelled in a equivalent way with comparable missiles.
the question is, what was the BR bracket of that match
I think it was 11.7 at max, there were a few MiG-23ML’s, but no 12.0’s as far as I remember.
8km is not favourable its perfectly reasonable range fir the r40td. And the r40 is more comparable to an r27er than it is to any aim7
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