What source is this from lol
Mig-25
F-15
You can see the MiG-25 can hit Cy max 1.15 at 18 AOA, while F-15 HIDEC needs 20 AOA for 1.15
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NONE of that actually supports any of what you are claiming above.
I’ll use your own words.
“The lifting body of the MiG-25 is better than on F-15.”
“Because, say it with me, it’s FM would be like a heavier F-15.”
How much anti-freeze do you have to be drinking to compare the MiG-25 to an F-15 in terms of aerodynamics? Actually I don’t want to know…
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No look-down, just very powerful. Stories that sometimes circle around suggest that it could cook rabbits on the runway. In 1976 there was a test in which a MiG-25P intercepted a MiG-15 drone at an altitude of 1 km with an R-40R.
Right… so you sweep into the thread and call everyone illiterate. Then you call me (and others) liars. Now I’m a bigot?
My awful crime against your sensibilities? I don’t think the MiG-25 is a dogfighter. I have supplied pilots notes from the OKB (who actually made the thing) to support my view.
What’s next? Going to go the whole hog and refer to me as ‘Godwin’s Law’…?
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18 degrees is the maximum alpha angle for the MiG 25 ?
The top line shows the MiG-25 can only do around 20 AOA as an aerodynamic limit in those conditions at the maximum stabilizer deflection angle, so we’re seeing a plane with energy but without hard pull.
Also, how does one post a chart that implies it is not at maximum engine power (since it can’t hit limit speeds) and then proceed to whine about the acceleration?
Destructive force at 5G? So it has a +220% safety margin?
Ah it’s moran of course.
so F104 basically
No. For previously discussed aero (Many F-15 similarities for lift model)
It has the option for either 22.4tf thrust static or 29tf thrust static (improved engines not installed in serial) because this is War Thunder.
This is with I think 95% rpm or so.
Considering it’s F-16 wing loading, and that 29tf thrust would give it higher thrust weight than a F-16C…
The dynamic thrust also matters because it’s thrust slope is very steep, (there are certain operational limits in the chart creating plateaus)
Sourcing the Korean study on F-15 engines, again, it eventually (speed+alt) beats the F-15 in thrust weight.
We can see that flying under around 5 km is not very good for this plane, but just takeoff with 5 tons fuel, burn up to 5km and go.
I read correctly that the maximum roll rate is limited to 90 degrees per second, the maximum allowable overload is 4.5 g. At a lift coefficient of about 0.8 with R 40 rockets, the aircraft warns the pilot of stall warning buffeting ?
The max allowable is “4.5-5”
With exit 11-11.5G
To eject a missile it is 6G.
Maneuvering limitations with large fuel loads are strict. The manual concerns itself with 30-32 ton weights, and the overload plateaus under that.
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We can’t say that the MiG 25 is a heavier F-15, but we can say that the MiG 25 was an interesting aircraft.
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Hmm idk, I’ve heard that the RP-SA had some weird sort of Look Down ability because of it’s huge raw power, but that’s just something I’ve heard, I can’t really back that up.
MiG 25 vs F-15 and possible F-15 shoot down in this air battle
F/A-18 too btw
It didn’t score a kill on F-15, but if you look into real records MiG-25 took very few losses in Middle East despite huge efforts to destroy them.
Including ambushes by groups of F-15’s on single aircraft.
It was here the MiG-25 set the record speed at around m3.6.
There are no confirmed shootings (however, this does not mean that in the future some of the alleged ones will not be confirmed). However, at least one F-15C was damaged (I don’t know if the damage led to the aircraft being taken out of service).
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Bulannikov said on a Russian stream that there are plans to introduce the MiG-25…It is not known which modification has a combat rating, because of the special characteristics of the aircraft, it is likely to be Promotional…
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Wait, really? Could you tell (rough) time-frame of this?