Ground battles have been CAS target simulator for a long time. Its just moved from equally useless SPAAs and NATO being the CAS spammers to Russia being the CAS spammers with a not completely useless SPAA. But if you removed the Pantsir NATO CAS would be EVERY bit as bad as Russian CAS, if not worse. But yes the CAS system needs an overhaul and other nations need a Pantsir equivalent SPAAs (frankly all nations need better than Pantsirs, but lets get them on par 1st)
Well now they got it do they have evrything
Bvr
Close range
Good mbts
Op spaa
Op cas
Su 27sm is not bad after the patch and engine buffs remember its 13.7 not 14.0
Also tbey dont need more the su30
All nation thay has 14.0 has only one of them and that is all u need in arb
So su30 is bad?
Might as well say pantsir is bad and kh38 spam doesnt exist
Su-30 is mid, not amazing
USA has F/A-18C + F-15E
Its not really in the best spot honestly compared to other 13.7. Its not bad, its mid.
God I love how clueless you are with the 27SM, it took them until Firebirds to give it the proper engines, N001 is still blind as hell but radar refresh got buffed along with it. R-77 is still the worse ARH in game
Oh btw, J-11B has all the benefits of the 27SM, except it gets a better Radar, RWR, MAW, and Missiles for 2 less ARH, and is also 13.7
Frogot about that but its not rly 14.0 it will be downtierd to 13.7 in the near br changes im sure
F15e is much better
Im talking now idc what it used to be now its ok and competitive
And yea j11b is better imo it can be 14.0 after it got pl8b
Ha good joke! When before all that F-15C with AIM-120s dominated, and then F-15Es, and now EFT and Rafales
It was basically forced to hug the ground and be defensive just for it to have a chance in fighting
Still the worst Jet in the game , even the thrust vectoring doesn’t help on such a bad plane. The newest R-77-1 is a sidegrade to the already supreme AIM-120B. We get it , you don’t play Soviet jet , you die to your own skill issue and complain about it
I wouldn’t call the Su-30 the worst jet ingame tbf, it is mid but it is not that bad.
Worse 14.0 however? debatable
Im talking about the Su-27SM, the same could be said about Su30 but that like you said , is debateble.
I dont compare it to 14.0 i compare it to other 13.7
F15c which is the best 13.7 is better at bvr ofc but in close range/furrball su27sm is better even more now with the cobra button
27SM doesn’t have TVC and 77-1, that’s why I assumed you mean the 30SM
Because 27SM was the top dog until BRs got moved up to 14.0 because the F-15E was just too dominating in Firebirds. And Soviet TT only got 14.0 this update
It good because of the R-73 (which it can already reliably do )or it good because of what it can do with the Thrust vectoring beside launching R-73 ?
You mean the lose all your speed button? Yeah good luck
Same with mirage 2k and it still good
Sure mica are better but u have more missiles and r77 are great at ahort range
Because Su-27 is just a much more massive aircraft than a Mirage hence hwy it got more missiles? Also it didn’t have the horrible as hell N001?