MiG-29SMT, Su-27SM, and Su-34 should be equipped with R-77-1 instead of R-77

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Yeah su30mk2 is over a ton lighter than either su30sm or su33 but still more than a ton heavier than base su27s.
IMO gimbal limit doesn’t matter since r77s are limited to 55 degrees off bore anyways.

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The su33 isn’t at 13.3 is it?

The su33 dosent have ARH missiles does it?

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I’m just comparing, and the acceleration of the smt is only better after 800 kph while having a much less ergonomic flight model

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So they’re nearly identical, except the poor energy retention of the smt will get it killed first.

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You’re right it’s only .3 br difference.

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You have shown that you can’t read an EM diagram

The em diagram shows energy retention

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At every single speed that you wont pass out from the su30 wins… Idk what you’re trying to prove here. Also flat out your chart doesn’t match the one i just pulled from the website.

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The blue lines is the mig

The mig wins

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You may want to watch this

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Dude it’s the same thing lamo. He said worse than su27s which is true

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using matawg as a source is crazy

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That means nothing.

Everyone is trying to push that the plane is going to be some unplayable piece of garbage which is not true.

Its going to perform just fine.

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Did you watch the video?

Or do you somehow think you know what you are talking about without any of the data to back it up unlike what is show in the video?

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I also think it’s gonna perform just fine (be op)I’m just saying his statement is correct

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All would be very welcome additions, especially in sim with the Su-34’s radar

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Im not disagreeing with the statement that it has worse flight performance, but he has clearly been trying to push a narrative that it will somehow be this unplayable piece of garbage when at the end of the day its much like comparing a F-16A to a F-16D, they are both F-16s and perform just fine especially when compared to their enemies.

Just like in this situation here where it performs so closely to the Su-27s that really its like trying to split hairs when in the grand scheme, its still practically a Su-27 that is going to now be dominating 12.3-13.0 lobbies.

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I never said that stop putting words in my mouth

I said that it will be a side grade to the Mig29smt

Just like the f-16c is a sidegrade to the f-15c

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Won’t be getting it cause it’s hard locked by BR I think was mentioned before