MiG-29N/SD (9.12SD) or MiG-29SM (9-12SM) as USSR Squadron Aircraft

The MiG-29N/SD (9-12SD) that Malaysia could be a USSR/British (the Commonwealth) squadron aircraft on 13.0/13.3. It equipped with N019ME Topaz radar that accessed the R-77/RVV-AE ARH AAM and could engage 2 targets simultaneously.
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MiG-29SD/N 9-12SD is an export version of MiG-29S 9-12S with slightly downgraded N019ME radar with multiple target tracking ability and RVV-AE (R-77 missile) compatibility. And the 9-12S is a post Soviet upgrade for older 9.12 variants incorporating the changes developed for version 9.13S.

In the War Thunder, the MiG-29N/SD 9-12SD should be roughly the same as the three 12.7/13.0 BR MiG-29s in the German/Italian tech tree - except that it is capable of launching R-73s and R-77s, and cannot carry ground-guided weapons beyond Kh-29/KAB-500KR. Considering that the Su-27, which can carry 10 air-to-air missiles with this BR update (4/6 of which are the more capable R-27ER for long-range engagements and a similar level of radar and RWR), has also been moved to 13.0, I don’t think it’s out of the question that the MiG-29N/SD 9-12SD could be moved to 13.0.

If the devs think Air-to-ground Guided Ammo is required, then I suggest Syrian MiG-29SM 9-12S.
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Russia helps keep Syria’s MiG-29s flying - IHS Jane’s 360 (archive.org)

Given the current conflict, arguably the most important upgrade is the ability to carry an expanded arsenal of air-to-ground weaponry, including Kh-29T/TE (AS-14 ‘Kedge’) and Kh-31A/P (AS-17 ‘Krypton’) missiles and KAB-500KR guided bombs. Other laser-guided weaponry could also be used by fitting a targeting pod or illuminating the target externally.
While Syrian Mig-29s have been filmed carrying out ground attack missions with guns and unguided rockets, it is unclear if they have been using guided munitions.
The upgrade also enables the aircraft to carry the R-77 (AA-12 ‘Adder’) air-to-air missile, which would pose a threat to foreign aircraft that may intervene in the conflict. MiG-29s have already been spotted in Syria carrying the AKU-170E rails required to launch the R-77, indicating Syria also has the missiles.>

As well as 9-12SD, 9-12SM’s BR could be 13.0 or 13.3.

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well, well…

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MiG-29N never got the proposed R-77 upgrade as Malaysia rejected it for being too expensive. The vehicle itself already got added on dev and functions as a copy of MiG-29G:

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it has reportedly been seen and photographed with Aim-9 sidewinders as well

Yeah the report for it is up and I really hope it gets thru.

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“The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) ordered 16 MiG-29N and two MiG-29UB-N aircraft in 1994 and received them in 1995-1996. The “N” version was a customized RMAF variant, with mid-air refueling capability (taking fuel from specially converted C-130 Hercules transports), and the ability to fire two RVV-AE radar-guided missiles (export version of the Vympel R-77) at two aerial targets simultaneously. After the loss of two MiGs in incidents in 1998 and 2004, the RMAF possesses 14 airframes, of which 10 are believed to remain operational with No. 17 Squadron at Kuantan AFB. Since 2010, the RMAF has said several times that it would withdraw the MiG-29s from service, but they continue flying.”

“ability to fire two RVV-AE radar-guided missiles” - this is most likely a typo from R-27 of which MiG-29N can carry 2 at a time. Besides N019E radar is incapable of providing proper guidance for R-77 missiles as its nothing more than an export downgraded version of the regular N019 radar.

Upgraded n019e is able to fire r-77. Mig-29sm

Ok sure but MiG-29N doesnt have that upgrade. N model is not in SM standard

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Aircraft Aerospace Systems Export Ctalogue | PDF | Avionics | Military Science page 18 which has already been accepted by the devs confims radar upgrade and missle capability. The N nomenclature is malaysian not international where its known as the SD or SE variant.

You mean this missile capability?

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What you have under “Equipment” section seems to be a typo incorrectly listing R-77.

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Did you not look at the link i just commented to you with? Heres another that also states its usage. US Army ODIN page 2. ODIN - OE Data Integration Network

you sure?

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does anyone has access to Jane Defence Weekly 1996?

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-Janes Russian Aerospace Industry 1999

Alot of sources point out to MIG-29N carried out a upgrade in 1997 to SD/SE version which include the N019ME radar which unlock the availability to fire r-77 but Malaysia didnt buy any until 2007-2008 with Su-30MKM. Knowing gaijin logic an aircraft should be given the weapon IF it was able to use it.

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It was upgraded


Ok so they updated the radar but when I look at the board from the photo it says R-27R1 and R-73E. No mention of R-77 capability.

Does it get RWR upgrade?

No

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So is the radar supposed to have datalink for 2 targets?

Because they were not used on this aircraft, but it is “technically” possible. The same principle as the Kh38 missiles appeared on the Su30MKM.