honestly this happens constantly with warthunder I feel
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yeah but only one of those programs ended up finishing, from what I can glean from people talking about it, all of the avionics were upgraded but the weapons and radar were still only being planned to be upgraded before the sniper program was left in favour of the lancer
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Correct, it’s like that. And once again I’m asking why in this game double standard exist
I would like it to have any cool and unique weapons that wouldn’t put it at 13.0, the second we get that matchmaker, it comes at a great cost. 12.7 is just free food and full of other premiums and dodges top tier. After a wipe or two I’d be down, but I want to eat well for a little bit first and finish my last air tree grind beforehand lol.
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From what I’ve read while creating suggestion for Sniper, it retained the original FCS.
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Aircraft cockpit received a wide-angle head-up display with an upfront control panel, two 6 X 8 inches multifunction color displays, hands-on throttle and stick controls, as well as backup flight instruments. Sniper’s avionics were integrated via a new Elbit MMRC mission computer and MilStd-1553B data bus.
Navigation system was upgraded, it consisted of VOR/ILS/DME and an inertial navigation system coupled with a GPS receiver.
Upgrade for communication system included: Elbit data-transfer system, a new IFF transponder, two radio stations with frequency-hopping and secure-voice capabilities (AM/FM and UHF/VHF).
The original fire-control system wasn’t upgraded, but it was as well integrated with a new mission computer.
Romanian modernization included new the Elisra SPS-20(V) radar warning receiver providing the 2-18 GHz range with a bigger library which included threats that previous SPO-15 system wasn’t intended to find (USSR-based, as well as Russian).
OEPS-29E electro-optical system and N019E Topaz radar were, previous weapon systems were still presented on the plane in its final state.
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if youre comparing to the yak141, I dont think its necessarily a double standard but possibly more of a very specific requirement for types of unfinished projects we get in the game, a requirement which is secret to us
there is a difference between a program being explicitly cancelled in the case of the mig29 sniper vs a program running out of steam (for lack of a better term) such as with the yak 141
or as smin did say
If there are sources to show specifically which weapons were planed, tested or mounted, then as ive already mentioned reports can be made for this to be considered.
keyword planned, so perhaps gaijin is more accepting of this stuff than we think, but then again thats assuming it would get accepted, It would require getting an unrefutable source, so the real question ends up being
does anyone know anyone who worked at elbit systems in the early 2000s?
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so the only difference between a 12.7 tech tree mig 29 compared to the sniper version, gameplay wise, is only a improvement on the RWR?
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Yes
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for now…
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Planned. They are advertising it
The better view. We do not know nothing more, only the things the LanceR got because that program didn’t run out of steam
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nato compatable doesnt necessarily mean nato weapons unfortunately, likely just nato systems compatability
mig29G is a nato compatable aircraft too
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I know, but that’s all rn
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hmmmm from what I can see, it would appear that one of the main reasons behind the cancellation of the mig29 sniper was that romania couldnt effectively maintain their mig29s and possibly some type of embargo by MiG/russia on buying new engines for the mig29s after romania joined nato
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Wait wait wait. I honestly don’t understand the decisions anymore. It now has NATO bombs in dev server, but not western missiles? Am I missing something or aren’t these bombs not found on any Romanian MiG-29? I never saw them
Honestly I hope this is just slowly rethinking the aircraft
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oh I didnt even notice that, fab500 + mk83 is kinda cursed
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You guys must add r73 since it cost 80USD and if it doesnt have a real good stuff
then the 80USD would be a scam
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Ah so its ok for the YaK-141 or Mirage 4K to get things it was proposed for but never fitted with but not this? thats good to know. There goes any and all interest i had in the thing…
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i still do not understand why they are adamant in not giving it at least r-73 and bump the br to 13.0.
“we do not sell top br premium vehicles” lies, u sell a viggen with amraams at 13.0 so why not give the sniper its hystorical loadout that is ABSOLUTELY NOT IN DOUBT for it to have irl.
i understand if u do not want to add other nato missiles because there are no pictures of it with those mounted but as u say there is no proof that it cannot not mount r-60 then the r-73 has the same argument for your own logic.
you are genuinely losing potential customers by not at least giving it r-73, and not a little amount at all
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Honestly I am fine with it losing the radar (even though it shouldn’t) but they should at least give it its proposed weapons fit such as R-73,Magic II and P3 and move it to 13.0
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fair to assume this is DOA…
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