MiG-29 Sniper let's make an interesting premium

So add R73 to it. (9-12) was compatable with the R73. Move it too 13.0 and at least let it be a usable 29G (better RWR).

Or i guess reply to this and cry “balancing decisions” even tho there is a 9-12 at 13.0 with R73. Idk youre choice i guess

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Balancing decisions dont just factor in if there is already just an aircraft on an existing BR with a particular missile.

As mentioned above also, precisely because we have MIG-29s on multiple BRs, the data from how each perform can also be considered.

Matchmaking ranges and what would work best for a premium are all important balance considerations when deciding on its loadout.

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I think gaijin is specifically trying to add the Mig29 sniper test bed, not the theoretical planned version but just the one that was actually built, very unfortunate but oh well maybe we’ll get the planned one another day

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Can you tell us why Gaijin is hellbent on keeping all 9.12 MiG-29’s at the same br at the cost of giving them fake loadouts?
When IRL, the differences in air-to-air loadout would warrant different br’s for the Hungarian,German ones compared to the Russian version that had everything, unlike the first 2.
Losing the "fake " BVR missiles for the R73 would be a fair tradeoff. And it would also increase uniqueness.

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I agree with you but unless gaijin added like a mig29 early with the r60s and the r27, it would arguably decrease or at least not change uniqueness at all

Multiple factors. Tree composition, BR spacings, balance considerations factoring in the data from MIGs across all the BRs we have.

The 12.7 MIG-29s mostly sit pretty comfortably at their current range and with their current kit. When an aircraft finds its natural leveled out position, drastic changes to its weaponry kit are far less lightly to take place.

I understand the rhetoric but this in turn makes the game repetitive, I get that taking risks with premiums isn’t ideal but at the same time a not unique premium, makes it less appealing.
And I’m not referring to the R-73 in this case.

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In the case of premiums, its precisely why risk taking is especially not a good idea when the information is not clear at all.

There is currently no information to be clear on which “Western Weaponry” is applicable or specifically what “NATO Compatable” Weaponry apllies to Sniper.

As mentioned previously, reports with information that can provide direct clarity are more than welcome. But things that may define a certain BR or position wont be added that run a risk of having to be taken away for a premium without clear information.

Much like the Italian M60 that had to loose its stabiliser post release, we are very keen to avoid such situations ever again with premiums.

Lmao. Lame ass premium. Expected something better but i guess gaijob had other plans.
Appreciate Smin for keeping us updated tho

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poor thing’s DOA without even having had time to be anything else than a sad plane

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I know its not your fault and youre just here to keep us updated, but were getting a mig29 that is being refused western weapons becuase its not sure about those weapons *which is fine…

And also being refused its upgraded weapons which the airframe was built around using.

Just kind of annoying for people who have the trees dones but aint paying €80 for essentially an identical plane in the game for the 4th time

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isn’t it kinda crazy that the su-33 at 13.0 gets r-73s and 8 r-27ers with a total of 12 missiles. while at 12.7 the mig-29 gets 2 r-27ers and r-60ms with 6 total missiles

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gaijin can’t have a MiG-29 that isn’t the 9-12G perform well

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From something I may have actually bought to just another thing to forget about. I don’t wanna play the same 29 4 times in a row.

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You mean 2 total missiles

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what do you mean. the mig-29 can use 6 missiles. if you meant that the r-60ms are usless, well they arent

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So basically you are saying if the Mig-29 Sniper were to be at 13.0 BR like the Mig-29G (with R-73), then it wouldnt sell well because the Premimum Mig-29 Sniper at 13.0 would constantly face 14.0 which includes all the planes with fox 3 missiles. So essentially, to even have the ability to sell the Mig-29 Sniper at a ridiculously 80 USD, you have to make it 12.7 where it cant fave Su-30s, Eurofighters, and Rafales.

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when are we gonna get the preorder for the sniper???

I dunno, but at that BR, it is one of the harder missiles to play well with. At much lower BRs, it is already easily defeated as it is one of, if not the most flare hungry missiles in game. Id say the 9L is slightly better.

The point is that at 12.7… the premium hornet has more 7Ps… which are quite good, with the notion, that yeah, its still a sparrow. It can carry 2-6 7Ps though. Than it can carry at least 2 9Ls… there is a loadout in which it can use 6x9Ls and 6x7Ps.

Not sure about other tech trees, all I know that France gets Magic 2s, which have IRCCM at even lower BRs.

Sweden kind of suffers with the Viggens, one of them is at 12.0 without amraams, the other two are at 13.0 with amraams. Goodish FM though.

This thing only gets a different RWR though, to set it apart from the tech tree, which is not nearly enough. It will play the same way the tech tree variant would play, with 2 good, if not the best SARH missiles, and mediocre IS missiles.

Give it the R73. At the very least.

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oh wait, …?

shouldn’t be 2x9Ls and 6x7Ps?