They don’t come from gaijin
That’s not a valid argument for why you can trust data from a source.
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Let’s flip your argument around, how do we know gaijin isn’t lying about statistics to create larger and wider arguments for their decisions?
How about scrapping R-27ER and moving the vehicle to 12.3?
The point all these discussion occur is that if the vehicle is given R-27s, it should be given R-73s as they were introduced around the same time.
I would take 12.3 with R-60M+R-27R and I would also take 12.7 with R-73 and R-27R. The current situation with R-27ER and R-60M at 12.7 is not acceptable.
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To my knowledge they haven’t put out any statistics.
Also not answering my concern.
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Correct. They don’t put out statistics. They do however, constantly use “statistics” as reasoning for balance changes, so repeat: How do we know they aren’t lying about statistics?
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You haven’t answered my question.
it doesn’t deserve answering. You can’t answer my question either without proving my point correct. I trust statshark devs, as despicable as some of them are, more than I do gaijin regarding this.
By that logic then neither does your question.
I won’t be answering you any more, you can’t seem to hold a normal conversation with a genuine discussion.
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Because I’m feeling generous, I can trust statshark devs more because they do not have a monetary reason to change numbers. They do not have a public image reason to change numbers. They do not have any real reasons to do so beyond the simple “maybe they want game balance to be different than it already is” which gaijin has no reason to respect in the first place!
Gaijin has every reason possible to not provide statistics including everything I said above that statshark devs do not.
Changing numbers can draw more people to their site by reaffirming peoples beliefs regardless of if those beliefs are correct or not, players will then start spreading the word about their site to a larger and wider extent compared to if those numbers went against players beliefs. (compare to people spreading false information in social media, they see something that confirms their beliefs and they share it giving that site/person more trafic)
Changing numbers can effect how players view vehicles and make more players argue for changes in the game that they want to see even if those changes might not be warranted.
I’m not saying that it is certain what they do, i’m saying that there are valid reasons that they could be.
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This is extremely far fetched and a giant reach to try to discredit the website which has no signs of tampering of data.
If gaijin does not want people to use the best resource available to view data, they should RELEASE data to discredit it. I would trust them far more if I could actually read what they say they are viewing to make balance decisions, even if I had to go on faith alone that they were telling the truth.
It isn’t that far fetched really when you look at other areas where similar things provably, actively and currently happen.
Gaijin has mentioned this haven’t they? (This post: Responding To Your Feedback On Separate Battle Ratings )
Or am i misunderstanding what it is that you’re looking for?
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Actual data. Not “we think”, “we see”, “the data shows” Numbers.
Btw, among the community, a significant % of us think gaijin’s way of balancing is incredibly flawed. I can point out multiple things they say in that post that make very little sense or misrepresent how the aircraft perform.
Sure, i got no arguments there.
I dont think an F-4F ICE or a Viggen has better flight performance than a MiG-29 IMo
Those are the minority
Thats why i specified some not all
so how do we petition gaijin into making these changes