it doesn’t deserve answering. You can’t answer my question either without proving my point correct. I trust statshark devs, as despicable as some of them are, more than I do gaijin regarding this.
By that logic then neither does your question.
I won’t be answering you any more, you can’t seem to hold a normal conversation with a genuine discussion.
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Because I’m feeling generous, I can trust statshark devs more because they do not have a monetary reason to change numbers. They do not have a public image reason to change numbers. They do not have any real reasons to do so beyond the simple “maybe they want game balance to be different than it already is” which gaijin has no reason to respect in the first place!
Gaijin has every reason possible to not provide statistics including everything I said above that statshark devs do not.
Changing numbers can draw more people to their site by reaffirming peoples beliefs regardless of if those beliefs are correct or not, players will then start spreading the word about their site to a larger and wider extent compared to if those numbers went against players beliefs. (compare to people spreading false information in social media, they see something that confirms their beliefs and they share it giving that site/person more trafic)
Changing numbers can effect how players view vehicles and make more players argue for changes in the game that they want to see even if those changes might not be warranted.
I’m not saying that it is certain what they do, i’m saying that there are valid reasons that they could be.
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This is extremely far fetched and a giant reach to try to discredit the website which has no signs of tampering of data.
If gaijin does not want people to use the best resource available to view data, they should RELEASE data to discredit it. I would trust them far more if I could actually read what they say they are viewing to make balance decisions, even if I had to go on faith alone that they were telling the truth.
It isn’t that far fetched really when you look at other areas where similar things provably, actively and currently happen.
Gaijin has mentioned this haven’t they? (This post: Responding To Your Feedback On Separate Battle Ratings )
Or am i misunderstanding what it is that you’re looking for?
Actual data. Not “we think”, “we see”, “the data shows” Numbers.
Btw, among the community, a significant % of us think gaijin’s way of balancing is incredibly flawed. I can point out multiple things they say in that post that make very little sense or misrepresent how the aircraft perform.
Sure, i got no arguments there.
I dont think an F-4F ICE or a Viggen has better flight performance than a MiG-29 IMo
Those are the minority
Thats why i specified some not all
so how do we petition gaijin into making these changes
if there was only a thread about that exact topic already with a poll
What about R-60s/R-27R and BR-12.3? I would prefer that and then the R-73/ R27ER at 13.0, that would make the 2 variants more unique and I believe historically accurate
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being kept alive by all the premium newbies that don’t know what that that big green circle that keeps beeping and flashing F-14 at them means!
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I’d be down for that as an event vehicle being either a prototype or non-Warsaw export.
You’re asking me to prove something that can’t be verified. But I’ll try.
If Statshark really showed incorrect statistics, then Gaijin moderators would brandish real game statistics at every opportunity, refuting the opponent’s arguments in the form of statistics from a third-party resource, but this will not happen, because these statistics are collected using the official SDK and they are quite accurate.
Because we’re playing this game. If the plane shows bad results, then there will be bad results on Statshark. This is especially evident in simulation battles, where the teams are divided and the same aircraft are involved in the same aircraft.
There is no benefit to it. As far as I remember, Statshark uses the WarThunder SDK to collect statistics. So if the SDK itself does not manipulate the query results, then there can be no questions about the data itself.
In addition, there are no known cases when Statshark would show high results for frankly weak aircraft.
Gaijin doesn’t care about the opinion of the players, statistics from a third-party source and other third-party factors. Tampering with data on a third-party resource in the hope of Gaijin’s reaction is stupid.
In conclusion, we trust the Stashark data because no one has been able to refute it.
False equivalence:
A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed, faulty, or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called “comparing apples and oranges.”
Like what the actual? What is your point? Outline it to me. Say it in direct words.
All right guys, we’ve lost.
To re-iterate the Russian Bias argument: look at the R-27ER modification - rank III just like R-60M.
They really don’t want this thing to struggle, but struggle it will. And then it will drop down to 12.3…
Missile bus with 2 missiles, gee i wonder what could possibly go wrong