why tho?
the Su-27 is at 13.0 and is just better than the mig-29 in every way
higher payload
better missiles
better flight model
the mig-29 shouldnt be at the same br as the su-27
even after it got the r-73
and especially not if it looses the r-27er
hopefully soon they will be uptiering those as they dont belong there
And the f-16a mlus
IRCCM missiles make these aircraft 13.0 in all situations.
There already are F-16s with only 9Ms you can play.
There is already a Mig-29 with only R-73s you can play.
If anything the 9.12. and 9.13 should lose their 27ERs and be made 12.3.
Congrats on agreeing with everyone that Su-27 should be 13.3.
There still gonna R27R1 and aim7M/F the only plane loosing anything is mig 29 because it could not carry R27ER without MIG-29S upgrade
so for clarification would be R27R1 and AIM7M with R73 and AIM-9M
Because why the hell would they be 12.7 with R-73? 11.7s shouldn’t have to fight that!
13.0s just need to go up, regardless of if 13.3+ goes up as well.
problem is we need top tiers to go up which should happen soon
R-27ER is primarily a motor [and receiver maybe] replacement electronically speaking.
It and R-27R are seen as the same missile in the system.
yeah so its fine ?
it isnt, the r-27er wasnt even in service for atleast 5 to 10 more years after the mig-29 entered service
the r-27er was never exported to germany or hungary
same for the r-27t and r-27et
but do you know what entered service, together with the mig-29?
The r-73
yeah i know thats why im trying my best to get it added
Moving them to 13.0 with IRCCM missiles, they will be subpar anyway since F-15As and Su-27 are better in essentially everything. We already got the mig-29G at 13.0, but there isn’t any real reason to use it if you have a flanker
mig 29 g would be ideally 13.3 and su27/33 and F15A would be 13.7
many ppl have tried before
it wont happen
no it wouldnt as it should have the exact same armament as the Mig-29A
germany wasnt able to buy new stock after the german reunification, so whatever the GDR had is what the Mig-29G has
mig 29 g has better missile it should be a tad bit higher
its like F4S and F4J
it shouldnt
it should have the r-27r and the r-73
it shouldnt have the r-27er or r-27et
no it is not the mig-29g is literally a Mig-29 9.12 with a different paint job and english cockpit