MIG-23ML should be 12.0 (with buffs)

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The MiG-23ML (ML + MLA + MLD) series in itself is not super good. The ACM mode is absolutely garbage, and its MTI barely works at all. However, I know some planes with similar loadout to the MiG-23ML sitting at 12.3, the F-20A.

The F-20A with 6x Aim-9L or 2x SARH and 2x Aim-9L.

The MiG-23ML have 4x R-60M and 2x R-24R or 6x R-60M.

So this loadout in 12.0 wouldn’t be too far fetched to be overpowered. Yes, Aim-9L is better, but this is a 12.3 plane.

The buff should be given to MiG-23ML series. A correct implemention of the MTI system.

And perhaps, if the box ACM mode exists, the developer can implement it as well, because it is horrible to use.

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Id just use the F-104S ASA or F-4J(UK) as justification for going to 12.0 without any buffs or they can nerf it down to IRL performance so its not too OP at 11.7. Either solution would work

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I think the F-104ASA should honestly be 11.7 or at least find a way to buff it where it currently is.

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Probably, but if they wont move the F-104 down… maybe others should be moved up

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I don’t think using 2 overtiered vehicles as justification for overtiering another is very fair. Move the F-104S ASA to 11.3, and the J(UK) to 11.7, instead of killing a vehicle with BR compression.

There is also evidence to suggest that the radar/MTI mode does not work accurately to real life, but the mods denied the bug report.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/JYls1faLEq27

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You won’t hear me argue, the thing does not deserve to seem AMRAAMs with its current RWR and CM count

…and flight performance

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I am working on a new report, but do not expect anything new from Gaijin. They’ll probably ignore or deny it

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What?