MiG-23 Nerf Discussion

I don’t see how the Mig 23ML, MLA, and MLD would be 11.7br worthy considering it has only 2 good missiles (R24Rs and Ts), and good flight performance. The F-14A is currently 11.7br and it has slightly better flight performance, better radar, while having more and better missiles, and has a better gun. Heck the F4EJ Kai at 11.7br while having worse flight performance still has better missiles, better radar, better RWR, better gun, and more missiles.

For the mig 23ML variants to be even 11.7br, you would need to give them R-73s

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I’ve noticed this behavior. I’ve bug reported planes and missiles from all nations but due to the nature of this being an English speaking forum full of pro-Swede players some of my NATO reports got quite a lot of criticism. This is very common for bug reporters to be harassed and scrutinized when discrepancies that yield nerfs are reported.

Obviously the inverse is true on Russian forum.

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Ummm, they buffed r60s, either I’m hallucinating or it ignored 60+ flares

Video? Cuz no changes that I’ve seen

Have you been bouncing between a few different airframes recently?

Some things like the F-5s can defeat any IR missile in game with a few flares and no effort. Meanwhile other aircraft, like some of the harriers, have to put in a stupid amount of effort to defeat older missiles.

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GJ also played with flare emissions some time ago.
Sinc then they take time to reach full “brightness” and differ in emission spectrum and intensity.
They basically added 3rd flare variant - small, for some of the CM pods

wait what???
share!!!
:crying face emoji:

I knew they nukes BOL into the ground

Is Russia gonna get a new top tier premium this update? I don’t see how this is gonna be a good thing for ppl wanting to grind USSR

Again, wait for it to happen and see
I am sure it won’t be as bad as people make it seem to be, ofc the worst sticks on better but still

Mig-23ML is Rank 7. If any new things are Rank 9. (which is possible) then it wouldnt be any good anyway. Besides it soviet. Will always be over-tuned and good.

But yes, they probably will get a new top tier premium this update

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They really need a 11.3 premium, Germany does as well.

To quote a respondant here, wait for it to happen and see.

Although a new MiG-29 premium would be very pleasant to see

Japan needs it the most imo…

problem is, what should it be?

Japan already has an 11.0 premium iirc, Germany and Russia need something to make their top tier as bad as the US’.

That’s utter nonsense that Gaijin uses secret sources to justify changes.

thank people who leaked confidential documents to drive their point about bunch of pixels in a video game

The documents used are public
The MiG-23ML manual is not some secret. They just don’t want people uploading documents where the public can quickly download and distribute before staff has been able to confirm that they are public and usable for reports.

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yeah but becuase of people trying to leak confidential ones, GJ added this system that hides eveyrything that’s not a screenshot

99% of these things aren’t leaks, rather just the sharing of already leaked information obtained elsewhere sometimes even available to a simple Google search.

It’s just a policy from gaijin to cover themselves.