MiG-21 Bison unfair

i have both su33 is better just not my style F15A is by far my preffered

and i beat su33 noobs any day of the week in F15a

same br as F14B with no irrcm missiles btw drives me nuts and gimped radar

Ill take a r27r over a sparrow any day. Only ecception being aim7p

Going from f15a to su27 or su33 is pretty insane. Its not even close su27/33 are insanely broken at 13.0

Yea well, in the 15A you just dogfight and win

just throw an R-73 at the F-15 with HMS

Just preflare

R-27ER then, broken SARH

Just notch, or just multipath

and if you notch/MP then you put yourself in a disadvantageus position without perfect terrian, asking for an IR shot.

the F-15 is also way worse stock

Your saying that as if the su 30 is inferior to either of those jets? you got a metric fuck ton of r77-1s along with a FAR superior radar to the eft? get gud.

are you for real?

it is way worse stock?

did you ever flew a russian aircraft stock

wait let your stats awnser that question for me

so please tell me how do you know how a stock su-27 flies?

becasue i know how both of them do and i can tell you the F-15A is way less painful
and for your information the J-11 is an export Su-27S

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SU-27/33 better for arb than f-15, in sim f-15a cooks it so hard because a: su 27/33 is always at 14.0 b) much easier to force merge in sim

f-15 is indeed way worse stock. that thing is much more of a brick/much more unusable than the su27 stock, i much preferred su27 stock grind, plus in full downtiers to 12.0 su27 is much more oppresssive than f-15a semi stock. 9ls on a stock f-15a are so bad

9L and 7M vs R27ER and R73

27r but r73 yeah

27ER for Su-33

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oh yeah true

and no CMs

just play the game and get the jet instead of telling me how you think it performs