I know
But if we consider the Sea Harrier FRS.1 (early), which has only one difference.
Dual missile rack
Then, in the Gaijin way of adding a vehicle, MiG-21Bison (Late.) is a plausible option ig.
nah it would be 13.0 for sure
Just look at the 13.0 F-5TH TCU in Japan, that only gets to carry x2 Derby and x2 AIM-9M/Python 3 while being essentially the same exact jet as the 11.3 F-5T SCU with 1 less gun and a slightly better radar.
The MiG-21 Bison when it was first added was incredibly interesting aircraft that was not expected to be added yet. And once players went into the game and looked at its weaponry saw that it was only able to carry 2 R-73(e)s either 2 R-27 R1s or 2 R27 T1s. After some digging by the community they realized that in real life the MiG-21 bison was able to carry the R-77 and was actually fitted on airborne MiG-21 bisons. At that time it was a little preposterous to have a premium aircraft in the game with a Fox-3 missile, but since then we now have the Su-30 mkk and mk 2, the F-14D, the MiG 29 9-15 (yes I know it’s a squadron, but still) and many others in different tech trees. And now the MiG-21 bison is not very competitive at 12.3 and could very well use the r77 to make it compatible again but with how it could only carry 4 total missile and only 2 being r77 I personally think it would be a perfect fit to be at a new BR of 13.0 or 12.7 because of the limiting factors of it having a mediocre at best air frame and pretty bad energy retention and the 4 total missiles. AND also not only does Great Britain not have any premiums with a Fox-3 so because of that I believe the MiG-21 bison should be able to receive the R-77.
no.
mig21 againt 14.0 or 13.0 ?
not possible
Sure, move it up to 13.0.
Then it makes room for a decent premium to replace it
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That’s why it could br be 12.7
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it cant. because will cry bais.
even when there is f14 at 12.7
If the FA2 isnt 12.7, I dont know why the Mig-21 would be
and its not the only one. Take for example the F-5TH TCU. Also 13.0
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Well then again I could be 13.0 or 12.7
I might be wrong, Su-33 is the highest battle rating airplane limited to semi-active radar homing missiles in-game, even then it’s a awkward position but can be easily outcomed by the amount of available missiles, on the contrary MiG-21 has very limited carrying capabilities when compared to a Flanker, which could explain why isn’t given such weapons. On top of that battle rating 13.0 for any R-77 carrier with competent radar to assist the missile is unthinkable on this current compression situation.
Same happens to the MiG-21 2000, an israeli modernisation of the long-living frame, using israeli technology it should be able to operate normally more advanced air-launched weapons such like the Derby active-homing missile and probably more but falls short on this awkward position, it can be better but being “better” means higher battle rating whereas the efforts to make it “better” will render the vehicle way too much weak to compete with more advanced opponents.
13.0 is the highest BR for any aircraft with only IR and/or SARH. But its not the only one at 13.0
Other 13.0s with only SARH
F-2A ADTW has Aim-7M
Mig-29G / Mig-29 (9-13) has R-27ER
Gripen A has Skyflash DF
Mirage 4K has 530Fs
Then that’s it. Regarding @thebomber1944, that’s not happening for balancing reasons, which hurts me to agree (I wanted accurate stuff in-game, it is what it is) needs to be done given the current air battles environment very responsive to drastic changes as these, we have countless of airplanes missing at least one weapon that either could put them in a better position or represent them in-game more accurately based on “balance” I.e. the terrible air battles conditions since ever when modern airplanes were introduced.
Trust me. Until the 13.3-14.3 bracket is properly decompressed, you do not want the Bison up at 13.0, where it would inevitably end up if it got two ARH missiles.
It would unironically still be better than the JA37D with ARHs, but still. A MiG-21 airframe with two R77s facing off against the hordes of Su-30s at 13.3 with 4 times as many ARHs (On top of their other massive advantages) is not something you want.
I mean I don’t think that should mean a plane can’t get added especially if people like that plane and would like to see in game with said type of capabilities and alright with the cons because they like a challenge and can make it work or just generally like the vehicle
R-77 at 12.7 sure is an opinion to have.
Almost as if there is massive difference between AIM-54 and R-77.
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It’s funny because a lot of war thunders problems boils down to the extreme BR compressions
Why should the mig21 bison revive the r77, who killed it?
Su-33, Su-27, J-11, Mirage 4k, MiG-29G, MiG-29 (9-13), F-2A ATDW
Not as funny as the guy who wants them on the Su-39 at 11.7/12.0