MiG-19PT/S to 9.0 or 8.7

I’m telling you, that in a 1v1, with no third parties, you would not be able to ever kill me unless I allowed it. However, I would always kill you, regardless of what you attempted to do.

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Thats the only thing ive found it useful in, climbing above people and then getting into a furball but despite going negative G it will still black out. No I’m not buying an expert crew when I dont have a premium account. I just cannot afford it for something that I rarely ever play.

I mean yes but because of how much it compresses its not that great. I find it shines best when I use altitude to zoom into a furball, then go vertical to come behind an enemy. Actually trying to boom and zoom anything is pointless as the rudder is nonexistent

They feel more like an exact copy of the Mk 103 to me

It is but it also has better dogfighting capability outside of that, especially with the much faster roll rate

I guess so but it doesnt really match my very prop-centred playstyle of diving in, sticking to the furball then coming out on top through sheer maneuverability and gunnery

I only use the F.6 and I love it, however I dont really dogfight in that, its not a dogfighter imo

Doesnt really work without an expert crew

Personally I find they dont do enough to slow me down

I mean its a significant amount, especially if youre both already going with small fuel amounts, and allows it to hang in the air for longer which as Normandy (I think) said the vertical is where it shines. I probably overreacted a bit asking for a downtier, I was a little bit ticked off that my cannons always seem to spark (albeit with default belts) but I feel like the MiG-19 just isnt the best platform for them, the SU-7 feels much better suited to the weapon (yes I know its a worse dogfighter). I dont really know what I’m doing wrong but I just cant make it work. Kinda like how I cant get the Sabres to work and I find them absolutely horrendous to even touch

MiG-19 wins every single dogfight with every single subsonic in the game besides Ariete by simple spiral climbing.

Your issue.

Expert crew is required for competitiveness above 7.0.

“my jet has too much thrust!!!” (lower your throttle…)

Not enough to change anything about the playstyle. They both do the same thing to the same planes.

The F-86s are all universally undertiered in WT besides the CL13 Mk4. Literally every single one of them besides the CL13 Mk4 are undertiered aka OVERpowered.

???

Yet I just cant get them to work. They’re impossible. Aside from the F-40 thats fairly good

“the airbrake doesn’t slow me down enough!” = “my jet has too much thrust!!” (lower your throttle)

See below

some things better be left unsaid

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Yes I’m not stupid I dont know why you felt the need to bring that up.

If the airbrake: " "

then lower your throttle, the jet has the highest t/w of any jet anywhere near its BR.

Yes lower the throttle less than 0% I’m going to enable my reverse thrust on my MiG-19

If you’re at 0% throttle and airbraking you will slow down extremely fast, so you’re just lying.

No, no I’m not.

Yes, you are.

very good at raising my k/d

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Statshark rating isn’t really relevant tbh. The MiG-19 series are fine, I’ve played both PT and S, albeit the S a lot more recently (and I did better in it due to skill improvements over my former self, naturally)
They’re strong, the guns are fine once you get used to aiming them, as the velocity is mid and they have relatively low ammo, yet the damage is great and normally a small burst dispatches of anything. However, expert crew is a must.
great dogfighters and more than capable of dodging most IR missiles you face.

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No

*Under a condition of stock grind without double RP by prem, no hydraulics no G suit no msl

Play the 19s with and without Expert and you’ll see a 0.7BR performance difference, for pt maybe 0.3 indeed.

Nah NR30 is the worst. Low velocity Heavy shell, High ammo consumption yet Not enough fire rate, Should blast plane but Not quite often. Gun of controversy. I’d better use NR23, not to say gsh23.

The guns on Russian jets do a lot of damage wdym.
I regularly one-tap people with the Russian 30mm on fulcrums and flankers because it just makes them explode instantly.

NR-30s and the GsH 30 are very different guns

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So do I because the Gsh 30 is amazing. The NR-30s are not. At least in my experience they feel like Mk 103s

I see. So the plane needs expert crew to be viable

Gah-23 my beloved

The MiG-19 might literally be the best 9.3, not sure what you’re talking about.
Please stop making complaining posts in general and go to The Academy - Players helping Players - War Thunder — official forum instead. I’m a pretty bad player like you, and I can tell you seeking help there works really well for me.
Here you’ll only find people calling out your skill issue, and it’s perfectly fair for this type of post

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I’m not a bad player. I’m not great but I’m about average and a plane shouldn’t need an expert/aced crew in order to perform well. Also people dont help you very often if you’re asking for it. I’ve tried. Most people say skill issue or just “just dont die” they never give you any actual advice